[Star Traveler]

You said — Those “bans” of course apply only to those who choose to obey that “law.”

Of course, that’s true. But, in all the cases where we’ve heard about these kinds of shootings, it hasn’t come out with a “good ending” where someone decided that they were not going to obey the ban. In about all the cases, it turns out that the legal and legitimate gun owner has obeyed the law. And *thus* — that’s the very problem. Either you’re going to start a movement which say, “Hell no, we won’t obey!” — or — you’re going to have to get the laws change.

And, I don’t think the “disobey the law” route is going to work very well for the gun owners, here.

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But, at Virginia Tech there were all sorts of others who were very willing to “rush in” and take care of the situation. As you know (and all other who have read), it was all over by the time anyone from outside could “rush in”. So, that really doesn’t do much good.

In fact, one of the spokesperson for changing the laws in that regard is a woman whose parents were killed in a Luby’s restaurant (I believe in Texas). She *did have* a gun, but she obeyed the law and left the gun out in the vehicle. The problem was, even though the vehicle was just right out in the parking lot — she couldn’t get to it and back again — before her parents were both dead.

And so, that’s the *nitty gritty* of the situation here...

Regards,
Star Traveler

[tfecw]

In fact, one of the spokesperson for changing the laws in that regard is a woman whose parents were killed in a Luby’s restaurant (I believe in Texas). She *did have* a gun, but she obeyed the law and left the gun out in the vehicle. The problem was, even though the vehicle was just right out in the parking lot — she couldn’t get to it and back again — before her parents were both dead.

Killeen Texas actually, the town next to Ft Hood

[Osage Orange]

But, in all the cases where we’ve heard about these kinds of shootings, it hasn’t come out with a “good ending” where someone decided that they were not going to obey the ban.

In ALL cases?

How many have you studied?

[TeleStraightShooter]

I must concur that a “gun free zone” even in the firearm friendly area of far western Virgina is nothing but a “safety free zone”. This was underscored when the shooter chained out any firepower that might be brought to suppress his evil.

[El Gato]

In fact, one of the spokesperson for changing the laws in that regard is a woman whose parents were killed in a Luby’s restaurant (I believe in Texas). She *did have* a gun, but she obeyed the law and left the gun out in the vehicle

That would be Susanna Gratia-Hupp, then just Gratia, my former state representative. BTW, it was just as illegal to have the gun in her truck as in her purse, but the likelihood of getting caught was much less, and she was concerned about losing her license to practice her profession, chiropractic. instead she lost her parents. Thanks in no small part to her testimony and activism, Texans can now have the firearm in either place, without such worries, although in the purse requires a license from the state.