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CNN’s Velshi: Carbon Credits Are a 'Way Out of Their Sins'
NewsBusters ^ | 4/20/2007 | Matthew Balan

Posted on 04/20/2007 2:16:55 PM PDT by Pyro7480

Rush Limbaugh has long compared aspects of the environmentalist movement to a religion. CNN’s Ali Velshi has given some evidence of that hypothesis. Friday’s "American Morning" featured a segment on carbon offset credits, which Velshi and cohost Kiran Chetry all but endorsed. At the beginning of the segment, Velshi stated that the credits were a way for companies to "basically buy their way out of their sins." At the segment’s close, he uses the exact same terminology - "It's the idea that you're paying or you're making up for your pollution and your sins."

Video: Real (793 KB) or Windows (893 KB), plus MP3 (125 KB).

The historical practice that comes to mind from Velshi’s words is the abuse of selling indulgences in the medieval Catholic Church. This is the exact analogy prominent environmentalist, George Monbiot, used in an article critical of carbon offset credits.  The segment featured a Pennsylvania dairy farmer who used his cows’ manure to produce methane, which is used to generate electricity. This is used as an example of "carbon-free, clean" businesses that other businesses can invest in, in order to obtain their carbon offset credits. Velshi names Ford, Intel, and Eastman Kodak as examples of corporations that are buying the carbon offset credits.

While the segment overwhelming sides with the practice, Velshi does briefly mention that some environmentalists are criticizing the credits as "green-washing." One unnamed critic compared the need to eliminate carbon dioxide emissions to dieting. He said, "You can't lose weight cheaply. It's going to be some pain in order to get bad behavior to become good behavior. This should be no different."

A full transcript of the segment from Friday’s "American Morning:"

CHETRY: Well, Earth Day is this weekend. Carbon dioxide emissions in the U.S., and which many scientists are blaming for the globbing warming, they've doubled since 1960." Ali Velshi 'Minding Your Business' with an idea that's downright dirty? I have to hear this one.

ALI VELSHI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, this is good. There's a very sophisticated market developing. The trade in something called carbon offset credits. It allows companies who pollute to basically buy their way out of their sins. Now, some people think it is a good idea. Others think it's a lot of bull.

VELSHI (voice over): This might not look like a clean energy project...

ALFRED WANNER, PENNSYLVANIA FARMER: We're probably generating about 5,000 gallons a day.

VELSHI: ...but Alfred Wanner's dairy farm is producing much more than this.

WANNER: They pump from here to the digester tank.

VELSHI: When the tank is heated up, the manure's byproduct, methane gas, gets converted into carbon-free, clean electricity - enough to power the farm and then some.

WANNER: If we can find people that are willing to partner with us, and pay us for doing that, it's a win-win situation for everybody.

VELSHI: It's a growing market. Individuals and corporations like Ford, Intel, and Eastman Kodak are buying what are called carbon offsets.

It's like a voucher. You invest in clean energy projects like the Wanner farm, or a wind farm, or a solar energy project, and you get credit that offsets your company's emissions. Some call that green-washing, a cheap fix that doesn't actually solve the underlying problem.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can't lose weight cheaply. It's going to be some pain in order to get bad behavior to become good behavior. This should be no different.

VELSHI: About 15 states are headed towards some form of emission regulation. California will be the first. The proposed laws could create a system that allows companies to buy these carbon offsets if they can't cut back enough. Carbon credit traders are banking on it becoming a reality.

JOSH MARGOLIS, CANTOR CO2E: They're waiting for the uncertainty to be removed. Then you're going to have to pay a lot more if you're a buyer.

VELSHI: One carbon offset credit balances out about a metric ton of pollution. That's about a year's worth of emissions from 216,000 cars. Not bad for $4 a piece. That's the going rate for one carbon offset.

And so far, it's a good deal for Alfred Wanner. He's turning manure into a pile of cash.

WANNER: It's not lucrative, but about as good as it can be at this time. It's worth going after.

VELSHI: This is an idea in its infancy, but people are buying these carbon offset credits. And right now there are several bills in Congress, and across the nation in state legislatures, with plans for carbon credit trading. So, this could become a big deal. It's kind of like buying land where you think there's going to be development. Companies are getting into it.

CHETRY: And is it all similar to in some areas they try to do - if you cut down a tree, you plant a new one, and try to make up for it?

VELSHI: It's exactly the same idea. You can do it on an individual level or a corporate level. It's the idea that you're paying or you're making up for your pollution and your sins.

CHETRY: All right. Interesting concept.

VELSHI: Yes. Hope it grows.

CHETRY: Yes, exactly.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carboncredits; climatechange; cnn; velshi
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Here's something a little more light for a Friday.
1 posted on 04/20/2007 2:16:59 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480
I forgot to update the video links. Here they are:

Video: Real (793 KB) or Windows (893 KB), plus MP3 (125 KB).

2 posted on 04/20/2007 2:19:20 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480
Others think it's a lot of bull

Umm, that would be ME

3 posted on 04/20/2007 2:20:35 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Pyro7480

When did Keiran Chetry go to CNN? I thought she was a bit right thinking.


4 posted on 04/20/2007 2:21:08 PM PDT by SeanOGuano
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To: Pyro7480

Very interesting. Glad CNN is airing this.


5 posted on 04/20/2007 2:21:52 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: SeanOGuano

I’m selling this if you’re buying it.


6 posted on 04/20/2007 2:22:20 PM PDT by TheRiverNile
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To: Pyro7480
So let me get this straight. I own a lot of land. Some corporation is going to pay me to grow trees?

Where do I sign up?

(Hey, somebody needs to get rich off the global warming scam--I nominate moi.)
7 posted on 04/20/2007 2:22:27 PM PDT by cgbg (We eight-eight flops of horse manure. We have tenure.)
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To: Pyro7480
Global Warming has supplanted Marxism as the new religion for the Left.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 04/20/2007 2:23:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pyro7480

A friend of mine calls them the 21st century version of indulgences. She’s a liberal Democrat and she still thinks the they are the dumbest idea to come along in years.


9 posted on 04/20/2007 2:24:25 PM PDT by joylyn
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To: Puppage

Is that “carbon-free” bull?


10 posted on 04/20/2007 2:24:58 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: SeanOGuano
Her agent and Fox News had a heated dispute earlier this year, so she ended up defecting. To her credit however, earlier in her first week on CNN's American Morning, she asked a hard question of a gun control advocate.

CHETRY: "Congresswoman McCarthy, there is a school of thought that criminals are going to be able to find guns that way, even in some cases at these gun shows where it's unregulated, and they can just go and get guns. So what if we end up in a situation where we've legislated it to the point where only the bad guys are getting handguns?"

11 posted on 04/20/2007 2:25:29 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480

No credits are needed, for this is but a greenpissing abuse of recent vintage. One is justified by faith alone, and no credits are needed, or would be of any use anyway. Now, could one please organize the whole 95 theses?


12 posted on 04/20/2007 2:25:57 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Pyro7480
I thought that Ann Coulter nailed it when she compared carbon offsets to Papal indulgences. Global warming is the latest god for the godless.
13 posted on 04/20/2007 2:26:12 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: joylyn
A friend of mine calls them the 21st century version of indulgences.

As the author of the article states, it was the selling of indulgences was an abuse.

14 posted on 04/20/2007 2:26:52 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480; OKSooner; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; BlessedBeGod; ...

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15 posted on 04/20/2007 2:27:00 PM PDT by honolulugal
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To: Redcloak

See my #14.


16 posted on 04/20/2007 2:27:30 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: TheRiverNile
I’m selling this if you’re buying it.

Can ya front me till pay day?

17 posted on 04/20/2007 2:27:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: joylyn
That was my first thought as well. It's simply ridiculous. Maybe when I get a little older and start putting on some weight, I'll pay someone to exercise for me.

P.S. I just realized my 3-year Freeper anniversary was a couple of days ago...yay!

18 posted on 04/20/2007 2:29:11 PM PDT by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: Pyro7480
...a metric ton of pollution. That's about a year's worth of emissions from 216,000 cars...

I'm quite sure that this is utter hogwash.

ONE car probably produces more than a metric ton of pollution in a year.

19 posted on 04/20/2007 2:29:45 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: cgbg

to post 7

>Where do I sign up?<

the ‘Chcago Climate Exchange’.

go here to learn how Senator Lugar
is part of the scam.

http://lugar.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=255829


20 posted on 04/20/2007 2:32:57 PM PDT by greasepaint
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