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1 posted on 04/20/2007 9:49:01 AM PDT by archy
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I know some will jump on me for this but I have a problem, again, with thousands of students carrying weapons on campus. Considering the original post, what do people think would have happened if these students had been armed and went running out of the building, weapons drawn, and met a bunch of heavly armed police? I think we would have had another big disaster on our hands. The police would not have know who these kids were. There’s got to be another answer.


2 posted on 04/20/2007 9:59:01 AM PDT by RC2
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Unarmed and Vulnerable

Unarmed and Vulnerable...
Just the way Rudy Giuliani likes us.

7 posted on 04/20/2007 10:06:55 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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How about a massive sit-in until the stoopid administrators get the message? Better yet, go to school elsewhere where your lives mean more to the administrators than maintaining an environment more favorable to terrorists and mass killers.

I think it's time for America to become an armed camp for a while.


10 posted on 04/20/2007 10:19:26 AM PDT by Eastbound
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That is one HELL of an article.

Pardon the language but it really was superb and could hardly have delivered its points more strongly and in such a matter of fact way. This student was brave just to write something like this. No doubt the libs will be gunning for him now.
19 posted on 04/20/2007 10:53:09 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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Gun-Free-Zones = terrorist targets
24 posted on 04/20/2007 11:59:24 AM PDT by Edgerunner (keep your powder dry...)
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Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


32 posted on 04/20/2007 1:36:52 PM PDT by wastedyears (To a liberal, "feeling safe" is far more important than "being safe" Credit to TruthShallSetYouFree)
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Some accountability for disarming this campus is reasonable.


Larry Hincker; VA Tech spokesman and Vice President.

2005 - "I think it's fair to say that we believe guns don't belong in the classroom. In an academic environment, we believe you should be free from fear." - Larry Hincker

2006 - "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions, because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." - Larry Hincker celebrating the defeat of the bill allowing guns on campus

hincker@vt.edu

Virginia Tech Students Doomed by Gun Ban [a 'must read']

36 posted on 04/20/2007 3:29:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option.)
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I sent this on to a friend in the Metropolitan Police in Wales. I await his reaction.


43 posted on 04/21/2007 6:08:59 AM PDT by doberville
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Good article, and the thread's got a lot of good commentary as well, particularly in reply to RC2's post #2. I hear his worries a lot, and many of the answers here (minus the flames) are good ones.

Yes, it would be nice if there was "another way". But until moral character is reintroduced into the mentality of the general population, being prepared to defend one's life with lethal force is a *real good idea*. Of course, lacking that, a chair thrown, a knife, ANYTHING is better than just cowering behind a desk waiting your turn to be slaughtered. Again, the mind is the real weapon.

Of course, that still leaves the problem presented by creatures like Cho, who are not American citizens and bring their own foreign brand of brainwashing to our shores when they come here. Again, the solution is to be able to neutralize the threat as soon as it presents itself. And if the threat has a gun, you damned well better have one too. I'm not saying I like it; I'm saying that's the way it is.

It is sad to note that a large undercurrent to the whole cowardice-as-courage mindset is the simple fact that these sheep do not trust themselves with their own preservation, and thus they do not trust their peers either. Of course, just slap a badge on someone and *Bingo!*, there's their superhero to save the day.

Pathetic, really, and all too common.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

44 posted on 04/21/2007 7:03:41 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Please note: This story was written on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - well before this mass murder. This crime was preventable.
47 posted on 04/21/2007 7:39:37 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org ? Self defense is a basic human right!)
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Sorry archy- I didn’t notice at 1st that you HAD posted the original date.....mea culpa...LOL


49 posted on 04/21/2007 7:45:50 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org ? Self defense is a basic human right!)
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Keep guns, licensed or not, off campus (It's a little old, but guess where it's from.)

Your post generated this response in the Roanoke Times. The writer was living in Blacksburg when it was written. I wonder what she's thinking now?

65 posted on 04/21/2007 9:21:54 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Wayne LaPierre of the NRA would like to have individuals with concealed carry licenses thrown in jail if they step onto school grounds.

http://www.nra.org/Speech.aspx?id=6043

First, we believe in absolutely gun-free, zero-tolerance, totally safe schools. That means no guns in America's schools, period ... with the rare exception of law enforcement officers or trained security personnel.

We believe America's schools should be as safe as America's airports. You can't talk about, much less take, bombs and guns onto airplanes.Such behavior in our schools should be prosecuted just as certainly as such behavior in our airports is prosecuted.

Of the 6,000 young people the President acknowledges were caught with a gun at school during the past two years, we believe all of them should have been prosecuted. But the truth is that only 5 were prosecuted in 1997 and just 8 in 1998. That's not zero tolerance.

The National Rifle Association believes in no unsupervised youth access to guns, period. We have always supported holding adults responsible for wilfully and recklessly allowing access to firearms.  Just as every kid should have a guardian who knows where he is and keeps him safe, every firearm should have a guardian who knows where it is and keeps it safely stored.

Nancy Pelosi says "Jump", and NRA says "How High?"

What happens when the NRA jumps higher and higher for Nancy?  Well, you might just see a situation in the U.S. where you have to get a permission slip from a psychiatrist to own a gun.  Don't believe it?  Learn how similar techniques were used to transform England in a matter of decades.  This is a long article, but it's quite educational.
 
Here's a message someone posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wa-ccw/message/42293

I attended the 1999 NRA convention in Denver where LaPierre gave that speech. I remember that to his statement of support for "gun-free schools" he received a response of silence and weak applause.

I think the membership back then clearly realized the folly of such an approach. I would hope that the NRA would now show some backbone and renounce such stupidity.

For some reason, I'd guess mostly political, they can't admit that if concealed firearms carried by responsible, law-abiding people is a good thing, then it's a good thing almost anywhere and everywhere.


69 posted on 04/21/2007 9:45:44 AM PDT by Mini-14
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Shut up, and be like lambs...


98 posted on 04/21/2007 3:38:21 PM PDT by RavenATB
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