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To: ventanax5

Initial reports seemed to indicate that the students and professors were simply cowering in fear or running for their lives and that the shooter faced no opposition at all. This article indicates that some did try to stop him by blocking access to classrooms at considerable personal risk and there was a line about one man who apparently died trying to attack the murderer.

One of the more disturbing aspects of this has been a perception that these young men and women were “passive” and simply allowed themselves to be butchered like so many cattle. This piece states rather clearly that in fact these people reacted like a group under such duress would pretty much be expected to react. Some ran, some hid and a few put up as much fight as they could.

It also indicates that the shooter had some skill with firearms. He didn’t just spray bullets but aimed deliberately while at the same time keeping on the move and keeping his back covered. Unarmed people would have little chance in the circumstances.


3 posted on 04/19/2007 3:11:03 PM PDT by scory
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Their only chance was to rush him all at once.


7 posted on 04/19/2007 3:17:34 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: scory
One of the more disturbing aspects of this has been a perception that these young men and women were “passive” and simply allowed themselves to be butchered like so many cattle. This piece states rather clearly that in fact these people reacted like a group under such duress would pretty much be expected to react. Some ran, some hid and a few put up as much fight as they could.

I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, I wish there had been a little more "Let's Roll" that day, but to call these poor kids "cowards" because they instinctively ran from a maniac with two pistols who was slaughtering their classmates left and right is just cruel.
8 posted on 04/19/2007 3:20:30 PM PDT by Thrusher ("There is no peace without victory.")
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To: scory
One of the more disturbing aspects of this has been a perception that these young men and women were “passive” and simply allowed themselves to be butchered like so many cattle

The only account I have read so far is the one from the young man who lived through the French class assault. According to him, everyone was laying down on their bellies once the bullets started coming through the door. No one got up to run or fight back. Perhaps teaching and training could be done for a class caught in this situation. Throwing books, chairs or anything not fastened down might make the intruder protect themselves long enough for some to rush them. This will happen again, we just don't know when, where and to what extent.

17 posted on 04/19/2007 3:48:15 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: scory

Sick men and sick nations lay down to die. Are you ready to sign your own death certificate so that a sick South Korean can stamp if DONE? I’m not and can’t imagine that I ever will be.


21 posted on 04/19/2007 3:57:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: scory
I couldn't disagree more with your conclusions.

1. Classrooms are full of weapons. Fire extinguishers, desks, keyboards, books and chairs.

2. Three or more rush this scumbag at the same time with various weapons one of them is bound to get him.

3. I would not have my headstone say "that was the desk I chose to die under". If nothing else while he is shooting me he is using up ammo and others may get away or better yet organize an attack.

Old Sioux saying: "Perhaps today is a good day to die." If I'm going out it is with honor and dignity and hopefully taking the scumbag with me.

23 posted on 04/19/2007 4:01:59 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (The road is long and the path is difficult, the reward is worth it.)
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