Posted on 04/19/2007 7:22:59 AM PDT by 2dogjoe
No it hasn't changed, and Catholic teachings doesn't say anything like that. It's obviously a 're-interpretation' of how fudge packers would like it to say.
Catholic/Christian teachings simply say that fundamental human rights are a gift from God and belong to everyone regardless of there station, race or color.
You will not find any teachings that will contradict the commandments of the Lord, and overrule what the bible considers sin. Sinners should be encouraged to repent their sin and change their ways, yes, and just as the Lord forgives sin upon repentance, so should the church. What this fairy tale wishfull thinking fiction is doing is trying to twist that the Church believes everyone, sinners included, should be have the same fundamental human rights as everyone else.
No it hasn't changed, and Catholic teachings doesn't say anything like that. It's obviously a 're-interpretation' of how fudge packers would like it to say.
Catholic/Christian teachings simply say that fundamental human rights are a gift from God and belong to everyone regardless of there station, race or color.
You will not find any teachings that will contradict the commandments of the Lord, and overrule what the bible considers sin. Sinners should be encouraged to repent their sin and change their ways, yes, and just as the Lord forgives sin upon repentance, so should the church. What this fairy tale wishfull thinking fiction is doing is trying to twist that the Church believes everyone, sinners included, should be have the same fundamental human rights as everyone else, absolves homosexual perverson from being a sin altogether.
it's a joke, lighten up
I take it you like homosexual behavior. whatever.
I don’t know why it would be repealed in the event of a draft. General prohibitions against sodomy weres in effect during previous wars; if the behavior manifests itself they’re discharged.
So what makes him the disgrace? His 13 years service? The fact he lost a leg in Iraq? Or his nerve at expressing an opinion you disagree with?
He’s that close? My best regards to him. I’ve had sentiments that were similar; I’ve told my soldiers that I wanted to be retired before the rainbow flag was hoisted over Fort Bragg.
Honestly? I don't give it much thought at all.
Can't imagine why I'd even want to obsess on such a subject, myself. To each his own.
But under Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, behavior is not what is needed. Just telling is.
When people say that they are obligate homosexuals and cannot become heterosexual, I believe them. This is the basis for the attitude of acceptance that prevails in contemporary culture. I am accepting of homosexual people. My wife and I have friends and relatives who are homosexual.
However, to me legalizing homosexual marriage is out of the question, though contractual arrangements to achieve the legal benefits or marriage, such as wills, financial benefits, etc. are perfectly acceptable. The designation of certain crimes as "hate crimes" is ridiculous; what are the other crimes--"love crimes"? And the military Chiefs of Staff should decided the criteria for service based on what best protects the American people and the U.S.A.--nothing else; if they decide that allowing homosexuals to serve, that should be final, if not, also final.
Personally, I think President Reagan's "We Ask, Don't Join" policy worked just fine.
Oh no. He has 6 more years. He has just said he didn’t care if he were that close, he wouldn’t stay in if they were allowed to flaunt their homosexuality.
I do want to make a quick observation. I do feel for this man in a way. He has clearly done his duty, and he has paid a high price. But he is a Sgt. and it says he served 13 years. Thirteen years is the cut off to pick up SSgt. for the up or out policy. I’m curious as to why he hadn’t picked up SSgt. If he waited until he was out of the Corps to be open, and he clearly did his part for the Corps in battle, then why no promotion? Just wondering is all.
Especially now that much of the stigma attached to being gay is gone.
Agreed!
Gotta ping this out later.
Interesting. I suppose you could have them sign an affadavit to that effect. I’ve often wondered with the internet how much easier it should be to track and point out draft dodgers, evaders, etc.
You get no flame from me. You are absolutely correct. That Marine demonstrated courage and fidelity to his Nation. For that, we honor him.
I do not believe the military is an appropriate setting to push homosexuality, or to permit homosexuals to join, just as I do not wish to see women in combat assignments. But that in no way lessens what this brave man did for his Country.
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