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Gallup's Pulse of Democracy Election 2008 (New Poll)
Gallup ^ | 4/18/07

Posted on 04/18/2007 5:46:08 PM PDT by areafiftyone

Gallup's Pulse of Democracy

Election 2008

There are clearly developed presidential front-runners within each major party. On the Democratic side, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton is the clear leader, maintaining a double-digit lead over Sen. Barack Obama. On the Republican side, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani has emerged as the front-runner -- although the lead he enjoyed in February and early March has diminished. Sen. John McCain remains in second place among the Republicans.

There has been no significant sign of movement yet from the second tier of announced candidates in the Democratic Party. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards gained slightly in late March after the announcement that he would continue campaigning despite the recurrence of cancer in his wife Elizabeth, but he is no more strongly positioned than he has been earlier this year.

Actor and former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee emerged with a third-place showing among Republican candidates in late March after stating that he was considering a run for the presidency. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, along with Republican candidates Sam Brownback, Tommy Thompson, Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, and Mike Huckabee, all receive 3% or less of the vote.

Two candidates who have not yet campaigned or declared they are running -- former Vice President Al Gore and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich -- could potentially alter the playing field. Gore has gained among Democrats, edging out Edwards for third place behind Clinton and Obama. The majority of Democrats do not consider Gore electable. Gingrich is in fourth place among Republicans. Gingrich is well known, but has high unfavorable ratings among independents and Democrats.

A number of the leading candidates this year have personal characteristics atypical to many past presidents. Clinton is a woman. Obama is black. Giuliani is Catholic and thrice married. McCain is 70 years old. Romney is a Mormon.

Voters are almost certainly aware of Clinton's gender and Obama's race, and presumably have already taken these characteristics into account. The vast majority of voters say neither gender nor race will factor into their vote. Clinton's gender may be a plus with her base of female Democrats and with female independent voters.

The effect of McCain's age, Giuliani's personal background, and Romney's religion is more difficult to predict. Research shows that each of these is a potential negative to sizable segments of voters. Being a candidate who will be 72 years old as of Election Day generates the most significant pushback, a "no vote" signal for up to 4 in 10 voters.

The majority of Republicans are unaware of Giuliani's positions on abortion, gun control, and same-sex marriage. Research shows that significant segments of Republicans, particularly more conservative Republicans, are less likely to vote for Giuliani once his positions on these issues are explained. Giuliani may have a problem with religious Republicans in some early primary states. More intensely religious Republicans in a March 2007 Gallup analysis were shown to be significantly less likely to vote for Giuliani than were less religious Republicans. How Giuliani positions himself on social issues will be one of the early campaign's most important developments.

Clinton's 97% name ID makes her one of the best-known politicians in Gallup Poll history. Her image ratings appear cast in stone at this point and have remained remarkably constant regardless of what is in the news. Voters give Clinton credit for her knowledge and expertise. Her long exposure in the White House also gives her "baggage", which some voters cite as a negative. She is less likely than other Democratic candidates to be seen as likable and in touch with ordinary people. Her favorable ratings among the general population fell in late March, and are the lowest of any of the four leading candidates. Still, Democrats see her as the most electable of the candidates. Bill Clinton is seen as an asset to a Hillary Clinton presidency rather than a detriment, even among Republicans. Hillary Clinton's gender gives her a significant edge among younger Democratic voters.

Voters are on a learning curve when it comes to Obama. His name ID has risen from 53% in December to 77% today. So far, his favorability has remained positive, although his negatives have risen from 11% in December to 24% today. Obama's great appeal to voters is his youth and freshness. He is also seen as likable. Voters also cite his inexperience as his biggest weakness. Well more than 9 in 10 voters say Obama's race would not be a factor in their vote.

Both Obama and Clinton are competing for the black Democratic vote, a minor factor in early primary and caucus states such as New Hampshire and Iowa, but of significant importance in South Carolina and others. Best current estimates are that the two are roughly tied among black Democrats.

McCain's highly public support for the Bush administration's surge in troops in Iraq runs counter to the opinion of the significant majority of Americans. Republicans, however, support the surge, and continue to support the war in Iraq. This makes it difficult to blame Iraq for McCain's loss of positioning to Giuliani among Republicans. McCain's potential to win the GOP nomination is significantly tied into perceived progress in Iraq by the end of 2007.

Giuliani maintains a positive image, although by late March his favorable rating had fallen by a few points to the lowest in Gallup's three-year history of tracking his image. Still, his favorables are the highest of any candidate from either party, including a 74% favorable rating from Republicans. Giuliani gained steadily as the candidate of choice among Republicans in February and early March, but fell back in late March. Republicans consider him the most electable candidate in November.

Romney's greatest attribute at this point is that he is not well known. More than half of Republicans say they don't know enough about Romney to have an opinion. This provides him room to develop a positive image as the campaign progresses.

The 2008 presidential election will be the first election since 1952 in which neither party has an incumbent president or vice president attempting to get his or her party's nomination. This wide-open field in both parties fuels interest in the primary process in 2007 and in early 2008 and in the general election in November.

This election may generate greater-than-normal interest for other reasons as well. The Bush years have refocused the public's attention on the power of the presidency. The public is more politically polarized than in the past, and thus Americans may perceive a greater stake in their side winning. The Hillary Clinton factor may further heighten public interest, particularly if she gains her party's nomination in the summer of 2008 and is in a realistic position to be the first female president in U.S. history. Obama may be the strongest black contender to ever seek his party's nomination. That a prominent Hispanic (Bill Richardson) and a Mormon are candidates may increase voter interest. It is also possible that there will be a significant third-party presence in the election.

The war in Iraq was the most important issue in the 2006 midterm elections. All research shows that Iraq remains the most important factor for voters. The degree to which Iraq dominates the election by next year is unknowable. A scenario in which U.S. troops have begun to withdraw from Iraq by 2008 is not out of the question, as is a scenario in which the recent "surge" in troops is seen as a success. Each of these would significantly affect the presidential campaign.

Concern about terrorism will most probably continue to be a strong latent issue. The economy is always a factor in an election. Consumer views of the economy became more positive in January 2007, but by March had dropped significantly. This may partly reflect the increasing price of gas. Many aspects of the economy, in addition to energy costs, could come into play next year, including international trade, tax cuts, and income inequality. Healthcare is a rising concern to Americans, who want government involvement, but do not want a national healthcare plan. Smaller segments of voters are also concerned about immigration and social issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage.

It's still early in the process. Poll results at this phase -- 10 months before the first primaries and caucuses and less than 20 months before the general election -- do not necessarily bear a strong relationship to the reality that unfolds in the election year itself. This has historically been true for the Democratic Party in particular. Bill Clinton, Michael Dukakis, Jimmy Carter, and George McGovern were all virtual unknowns who rose from obscurity to take their party's nomination. Republicans have, on the other hand, been more likely in the past to settle on a nominee early, and stick with him.

Three-quarters of voters in March indicated that they did not yet have a good idea for whom they will vote next year. Half have not given it much thought.

Voters are as likely to say that it's actually good, rather than bad, that the election campaign has started so early. Presumably some Americans believe the grueling process exposes them to the candidates and provides better information with which to make an informed voting decision.

(Asked of Republicans and independents who lean to the Republican Party) Next, I'm going to read a list of people who may be running in the Republican primary for president in the next election. After I read all the names, please tell me which of those candidates you would be most likely to support for the Republican nomination for President in the year 2008, or if you would support someone else.

[ROTATED: Kansas Senator, Sam Brownback; Former Virginia Governor, Jim Gilmore; Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich; Former New York City Mayor, Rudy Giuliani; Nebraska Senator, Chuck Hagel; Former Arkansas Governor, Mike Huckabee; California Congressman, Duncan Hunter; Arizona Senator, John McCain; Former New York Governor, George Pataki; Former Massachusetts Governor, MittRomney; Colorado Congressman, Tom Tancredo; Former Wisconsin Governor, Tommy Thompson; Former Tennessee Senator, Fred Thompson; Texas Congressman, Ron Paul]

Apr
13-15,
2007

Apr
2-5,
2007

Mar

23-25, 2007

Mar
2-4,
2007

Feb
9-11, 2007

Jan
12-14, 2007

%

%

%

%

%

%

Rudy Giuliani

35

38

31

44

40

31

John McCain

22

16

22

20

24

27

Fred Thompson

10

10

12

N/A

N/A

N/A

Mitt Romney

9

6

3

8

5

7

Newt Gingrich

7

10

8

9

9

10

Jim Gilmore

2

*

*

*

2

2

Mike Huckabee

2

1

1

*

2

1

George Pataki

2

2

*

1

1

3

Ron Paul

2

2

1

N/A

N/A

N/A

Tommy Thompson

1

2

2

2

2

2

Sam Brownback

1

1

3

1

3

1

Tom Tancredo

*

2

1

1

1

N/A

Duncan Hunter

*

1

*

1

1

*

Chuck Hagel

--

1

*

*

1

1

Other

1

1

2

2

1

3

None

2

2

3

3

2

3

All/any

--

*

1

*

--

--

No opinion

3

4

9

8

7

10

N/A

Not asked.

Contact Gallup for full trend.

Republican Presidential Nomination Preference (Without Newt Gingrich):

Apr
13-15,
2007

Apr
2-5,
2007

Mar

23-25,
2007

Mar
2-4,
2007

Feb
9-11,
2007

%

%

%

%

%

Rudy Giuliani

38

42

34

49

42

John McCain

24

18

22

21

25

Fred Thompson

11

12

13

N/A

N/A

Mitt Romney

10

7

4

10

6

Jim Gilmore

2

*

1

*

2

George Pataki

2

2

*

1

1

Mike Huckabee

2

1

2

1

2

Ron Paul

2

2

1

N/A

N/A

Tommy Thompson

1

3

2

2

2

Sam Brownback

1

1

3

1

4

Duncan Hunter

1

1

1

1

2

Tom Tancredo

*

2

1

1

2

Chuck Hagel

--

1

*

*

1

Other

1

1

2

2

2

None

2

2

4

3

2

All/any

--

*

1

*

--

No opinion

4

5

9

8

8

Note: Ballot recalculated by substituting Gingrich supporters' second choice for their Gingrich vote

(Asked of Republicans and independents who lean to the Republican Party who named a candidate they support for the Republican nomination in 2008) Who would be your second choice?

COMBINED RESPONSES: FIRST AND SECOND CHOICES

Apr
13-15,
2007

Apr
2-5,
2007

Mar

23-25, 2007

Mar
2-4,
2007

Feb
9-11, 2007

%

%

%

%

%

Rudy Giuliani

61

62

57

64

62

John McCain

41

39

38

42

47

Fred Thompson

19

16

16

N/A

N/A

Newt Gingrich

16

19

15

21

18

Mitt Romney

15

12

9

14

11

George Pataki

6

4

2

5

4

Tommy Thompson

4

6

5

4

3

Mike Huckabee

4

3

3

3

3

Ron Paul

3

5

2

N/A

N/A

Jim Gilmore

2

*

1

1

2

Sam Brownback

1

2

4

2

4

Tom Tancredo

1

3

1

2

2

Duncan Hunter

1

1

1

1

4

Chuck Hagel

*

2

1

1

1

Other

2

3

3

3

5

None

6

4

7

1

3

All/any

--

*

1

--

--

No opinion

3

4

9

10

9

Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.

N/A: Not asked

(Asked of Republicans and independents who lean to the Republican Party) Given your understanding of who is definitely running for the Republican nomination for president, are you generally pleased with that selection of candidates, or do you wish someone else would get into the race?


Pleased
with selection

Wish someone else would get into race


No
opinion

%

%

%

2007 Apr 13-15

61

33

7

(Asked of Republicans and independents who lean to the Republican Party) Suppose the choice for the Republican presidential nomination narrows down to former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona Senator John McCain. Which one would you prefer the Republican Party nominate for president -- [ROTATED: Rudy Giuliani (or) John McCain]?

Giuliani

McCain

No opinion

%

%

%

2007 Apr 13-15

57

39

4

2007 Apr 2-5

57

38

6

2007 Mar 23-25

54

39

7

2007 Mar 2-4

58

34

8

2007 Feb 9-11

57

39

4

2007 Jan 5-7

50

42

8

(Asked of Democrats and independents who lean to the Democratic Party) Next, I'm going to read a list of people who may be running in the Democratic primary for president in the next election. After I read all the names, please tell me which of those candidates you would be most likely to support for the Democratic nomination for President in the year 2008, or if you would support someone else.

[ROTATED: Delaware Senator, Joe Biden; Retired General, Wesley Clark; New York Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton; Connecticut Senator, Christopher Dodd; Former North Carolina Senator, John Edwards; Former Vice President, Al Gore; Former Alaska Senator, Mike Gravel; Ohio Congressman, Dennis Kucinich; Illinois Senator, Barack Obama; New Mexico Governor, Bill Richardson; The Reverend, Al Sharpton]

Apr
13-15,
2007

Apr
2-5,
2007

Mar

23-25, 2007

Mar
2-4,
2007

Feb
9-11, 2007

Jan
12-14, 2007

%

%

%

%

%

%

Hillary Clinton

31

38

35

36

40

29

Barack Obama

26

19

22

22

21

18

John Edwards

16

15

14

9

13

13

Al Gore

15

14

17

18

14

11

Bill Richardson

3

2

3

1

4

3

Al Sharpton

2

*

--

*

--

1

Joe Biden

1

1

1

3

1

5

Wesley Clark

1

3

1

2

1

2

Dennis Kucinich

1

*

*

--

*

*

Christopher Dodd

1

*

--

*

1

1

Mike Gravel

1

1

--

1

*

N/A

Tom Vilsack

N/A

N/A

N/A

N/A

*

*

John Kerry

N/A

N/A

N/A

N/A

N/A

8

Other

*

2

*

1

*

2

None

1

1

2

3

1

2

All/any

--

--

--

*

--

*

No opinion

3

5

4

4

3

4

N/A

Not asked.

Contact Gallup for full trend.

Democratic Presidential Nomination Preference (Without Al Gore):

Apr
13-15,
2007

Apr
2-5,
2007

Mar

23-25,
2007

Mar
2-4,
2007

Feb
9-11,
2007

%

%

%

%

%

Hillary Clinton

37

43

42

44

48

Barack Obama

29

19

24

27

23

John Edwards

19

18

17

10

14

Bill Richardson

4

3

4

2

5

Wesley Clark

2

3

2

3

1

Joe Biden

2

2

2

3

2

Al Sharpton

2

*

--

1

--

Dennis Kucinich

1

*

1

*

*

Christopher Dodd

1

*

--

*

1

Mike Gravel

1

1

*

1

*

Tom Vilsack

N/A

N/A

--

N/A

*

Other

1

2

*

2

1

None

1

1

2

3

1

All/any

--

--

--

*

--

No opinion

3

7

5

5

4

Note: Ballot recalculated by substituting Gore supporters' second choice for their Gore vote

(Asked of Democrats and independents who lean to the Democratic Party who named a candidate they support for the Democratic nomination in 2008) Who would be your second choice?

COMBINED RESPONSES: FIRST AND SECOND CHOICES

Apr
13-15,
2007

Apr
2-5,
2007

Mar

23-25, 2007

Mar
2-4,
2007

Feb
9-11, 2007

%

%

%

%

%

Hillary Clinton

58

58

57

59

67

Barack Obama

46

36

42

43

42

John Edwards

32

32

30

21

26

Al Gore

28

29

32

34

26

Bill Richardson

6

5

6

4

7

Al Sharpton

4

1

1

2

1

Wesley Clark

3

5

3

3

3

Joe Biden

3

4

3

4

5

Christopher Dodd

2

*

1

1

2

Dennis Kucinich

1

1

1

1

1

Mike Gravel

1

2

*

1

1

Tom Vilsack

N/A

N/A

N/A

N/A

1

Other

2

5

2

3

3

None

3

3

6

3

3

All/any

--

--

--

1

--

No opinion

3

5

4

7

4

Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.

(Asked of Democrats and independents who lean to the Democratic Party) Given your understanding of who is definitely running for the Democratic nomination for president, are you generally pleased with that selection of candidates, or do you wish someone else would get into the race?


Pleased
with selection

Wish someone else would get into race


No
opinion

2007 Apr 13-15

80%

18

3

(Asked of Democrats and independents who lean to the Democratic Party) Suppose the choice for the Democratic presidential nomination narrows down to Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama. Which one would you prefer the Democratic Party nominate for president -- [ROTATED: Hillary Rodham Clinton (or) Barack Obama]?

Clinton

Obama

No opinion

%

%

%

2007 Apr 13-15

53

41

6

2007 Apr 2-5

61

33

6

2007 Mar 23-25

56

37

6

2007 Mar 2-4

56

36

8

2007 Feb 9-11

62

33

5

2007 Jan 12-14

53

39

8

Suppose the 2008 presidential election were being held today. If Hillary Rodham Clinton were the Democratic Party's candidate and Rudy Giuliani were the Republican Party's candidate, who would you vote for -- [ROTATED: Hillary Clinton, the Democrat (or) Rudy Giuliani, the Republican]? (Asked of those who are undecided) As of today, do you lean more toward -- [ROTATED: Clinton, the Democrat (or) Giuliani, the Republican]?


Clinton


Giuliani

Other
(vol.)

Neither
(vol.)

No
opinion

%

%

%

%

%

Registered Voters

2007 Apr 13-15

46

51

*

2

1

2007 Feb 9-11

48

50

--

1

1

2005 Jul 25-28

45

50

1

2

2

National Adults

2007 Apr 13-15

46

51

*

2

1

2007 Feb 9-11

49

48

--

1

1

2005 Jul 25-28

44

51

*

2

3

If the 2008 presidential election were being held today, which party's presidential candidate would you like to see win – [ROTATED: the Democratic Party (or) the Republican Party]?

Democratic Party

Republican
Party

Other party
(vol.)

No
opinion

Registered Voters

2007 Apr 2-5

50%

35

3

11

National Adults

2007 Apr 2-5

50%

35

3

12

(Asked of Republicans who support Giuliani in head-to-head match up with McCain) What are the main reasons you are more likely to support Rudy Giuliani than John McCain for the Republican nomination? [OPEN-ENDED]

2007 Mar 23-25

%

Giuliani's handling of 9/11 and terrorism

18

Leadership/Giuliani is a strong leader

13

McCain is too moderate/too much of a maverick

10

Agree with Giuliani's views on issues

10

Did a good job as Mayor of New York City

10

Giuliani is more in touch/better with people/a good listener

8

More familiar with Giuliani

8

McCain changes his mind too much/wavers on issues

7

Giuliani has better chance of being elected

5

Giuliani is experienced/better experience for the job

5

Giuliani is honest/a straight shooter

4

Concerned about McCain's age/McCain too old

3

Other

3

No reason in particular

7

No opinion

2

Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.

(Asked of Republicans who support McCain in head-to-head match up with Giuliani) What are the main reasons you are more likely to support John McCain than Rudy Giuliani for the Republican nomination? [OPEN-ENDED]

2007 Mar 23-25

%

McCain is more experienced

19

More familiar with McCain

18

Agree with McCain's views (other than moral issues)

16

McCain's military background/is better on defense

16

McCain is honest/has integrity

14

McCain's views on moral issues/abortion

11

McCain is more conservative than Giuliani

5

McCain is more moderate than Giuliani

3

McCain is knowledgeable

2

Other

7

No reason in particular

3

No opinion

2

Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.

(Asked of Democrats who support Clinton in head-to-head match up with Obama) What are the main reasons you are more likely to support Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination? [OPEN-ENDED]

2007 Mar 23-25

%

Clinton is more experienced

33

Like Clinton's views on issues/agenda

21

Clinton is a woman

14

Don't know enough about Obama/not familiar with him

11

Bill Clinton was president

9

Clinton did a good job in the Senate/represented New York well

8

Clinton is knowledgeable/intelligent

6

Clinton is strong/tough

4

Clinton has a better chance of being elected president

3

Race issue/country not ready to elect a black president

2

Don't like the way Obama has campaigned

*

Other

4

No reason in particular

3

No opinion

2

Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.

(Asked of Democrats who support Obama in head-to-head match up with Clinton) What are the main reasons you are more likely to support Barack Obama than Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination? [OPEN-ENDED]

2007 Mar 23-25

%

Like Obama better/do not like Clinton

18

Agree with Obama's issue positions/agenda

18

Obama is a fresh face/has new ideas

13

Clinton has too much baggage/don't want another Clinton

12

Obama has a better chance of being elected president

8

Obama is less divisive/polarizing than Clinton

7

Obama's anti-war views

7

Country is not ready for a woman president

7

Obama is honest

5

Obama's leadership skills/would unify country

4

Obama is intelligent/smart

3

Obama has done a good job in Senate/represented Illinois well

3

Other

5

No reason in particular

3

No opinion

2

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To: Victoria Delsoul

Yup he sure is. And by now he should be the Titanic according to some people.


21 posted on 04/18/2007 6:41:49 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Agreed! LOL!!!


22 posted on 04/18/2007 6:43:14 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

It’s all good!


23 posted on 04/18/2007 6:47:39 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: areafiftyone
Looks like Hunter's peaked at 1%.

When is the field gonna shake out a little more.

24 posted on 04/18/2007 6:49:53 PM PDT by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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To: HitmanLV

Yep. ;-)


25 posted on 04/18/2007 6:51:21 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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To: areafiftyone

Every time I see one of these threads, I feel like Charlie Brown trusting Lucy with the football.
I always think-maybe this thread is the one where all of us can finally have an old time Freeperstyle conversation about a poll.
Those who post the usual childish garbage in the name of Thompson or Hunter do those men no favors.
They make it seem as if Hunter and Thompson only attract weirdos , malcontents and juveniles.
Hunter and Thompson are honorable and decent men who would probably be revolted by the things posted by their supporters.
It’s gotten so bad , that I have to conclude that some of these supporters may actually be PsyOps from other campaigns.


26 posted on 04/18/2007 6:53:24 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Man50D
Using that matrix, you look like a Hillary pimp... It overstates her positions on the WOT and Iraq so ...

How come you're still allowed to post on FR.

27 posted on 04/18/2007 6:53:37 PM PDT by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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To: areafiftyone; All
Clinton's gender may be a plus with her base of female Democrats and with female independent voters.

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28 posted on 04/18/2007 6:58:09 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Peach

~LOL~ I suspect they are just warming up for the next round..


29 posted on 04/18/2007 7:39:55 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mia T
America desires closure on certain...unfinished business: The 2000 New York senate race between {{{her}}} and Mr. Rudy Giuliani.

I have no doubt we will see a rematch—except it will be for a different office.

30 posted on 04/18/2007 7:44:16 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
I think some can’t accept events that do not go their way--such as seeing Mr. Giuliani’s consistent lead among many Republican and independent voters.

Call it rudeness or bullying...they are just frustrated by some of their fellow conservatives supporting Mr. Giuliani for president of the United States of America (the country I have loved since I first stepped on shore here from Italy in 1955—you’ll forgive the background color) and so they lash out.

31 posted on 04/18/2007 8:03:25 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: garv
"...he's stuck in the 30s..."

He has over thirty percent support in a field of 14 candidates, if Fred Thompson pulled every vote from every candidate listed below him in that poll, he'd tie Rudy.

"The polls also shows that most Republicans still have no idea what Giuliani's positions on social issues are."

Really?

Do you mean Republicans, or Republicans who've spent the last several weeks in solitary confinement, or in the Amazon?

Maybe what the poll shows, is that they know, and don't care.

32 posted on 04/19/2007 12:27:13 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: nctexan
Using that matrix, you look like a Hillary pimp...

Very Clever. I present facts on Giuliani's positions and actual quotes from multiple sources and you respond with insults and false assumptions.

How come you're still allowed to post on FR.

I see. Someone takes a dissenting point of view, within FR guidelines and you want to squelch their first amendment rights. Careful, someone may mistake you for a socialist.
33 posted on 04/19/2007 2:08:12 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: areafiftyone

Once again you listed Rudy among the Republican candidates when he should actually be listed along with the Democrats.


34 posted on 04/19/2007 2:16:00 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Man50D
"I present facts on Giuliani's positions and actual quotes from multiple sources..."

Nice try to dodge the facts.

My post said nothing about Giuliani. I don't support him or question your facts concerning him. I question your blatant misrepresentation of Hillary's position.

Your matrix is downright false and misleading as a current view of Hillary on WOT.

You posted:

_______________ HILLARY

War in Afgh._____ Supports, voted for it

War in Iraq ______ Supports, voted for it

Patriot Act ______ Supports, voted for it in 2001 & 2006.

Considering her actions of the last six months, I'd take this as blatantly pimping her position.

BTW, She's the socialist and so are her pimps.

35 posted on 04/19/2007 4:45:01 AM PDT by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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To: areafiftyone; Spiff
The majority of Republicans are unaware of Giuliani's positions on abortion, gun control, and same-sex marriage.

Need to get the word out. I'll do my best.

36 posted on 04/19/2007 5:13:02 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: trumandogz

YEESH!


37 posted on 04/19/2007 5:22:41 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Luis Gonzalez
He has over thirty percent support in a field of 14 candidates, if Fred Thompson pulled every vote from every candidate listed below him in that poll, he'd tie Rudy.

In May of 1999 George Bush broke 50% in national polls. By June he was over 60%. Giuliani was polling in the 30s in November of '06. He's still in the 30s. By comparison, in May 1999 Elizabeth Doll was polling at 24%, in the recent ARG poll Giuliani came in at 27%.

Really?

Do you mean Republicans, or Republicans who've spent the last several weeks in solitary confinement, or in the Amazon?

Maybe what the poll shows, is that they know, and don't care.

No, that's not what I mean. Perhaps you should try reading the poll that this thread is based on which says:

The majority of Republicans are unaware of Giuliani's positions on abortion, gun control, and same-sex marriage. Research shows that significant segments of Republicans, particularly more conservative Republicans, are less likely to vote for Giuliani once his positions on these issues are explained.

38 posted on 04/19/2007 8:25:14 AM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: areafiftyone
".....Giuliani maintains a positive image, although by late March his favorable rating had fallen by a few points to the lowest in Gallup's three-year history of tracking his image. Still, his favorables are the highest of any candidate from either party, including a 74% favorable rating from Republicans.

Giuliani gained steadily as the candidate of choice among Republicans in February and early March, but fell back in late March. Republicans consider him the most electable candidate in November......"

This is what they are afraid of!!

39 posted on 04/19/2007 9:39:20 AM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: KATIE-O

LOL! It looks like it.


40 posted on 04/19/2007 9:40:28 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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