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Gallup's Pulse of Democracy Election 2008 (New Poll)
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| 4/18/07
Posted on 04/18/2007 5:46:08 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989
--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992
--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989
--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett
--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997 --On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
What sounded pretty good to some, until Giuliani added last week during a CNN interview that he thinks a person who believes the Constitution should be interpreted as written could also vote to uphold Roe v. Wade and that he supports public financing of abortions for poor women who want them.Twisting himself even further, Giuliani said denying a poor woman tax dollars to pay for an abortion would deprive her of a "constitutional right."
---"Over the objections of a furious Mayor Giuliani and city legislators from both parties, the New York state legislature has abolished the New York City commuter tax. The action, done to apparently affect a local legislative race in suburban Rockland County, could cost New York City $360 million. NPR's Margot Adler reports."--- NPR Report
---"Let's face it: Rudy Giuliani argued for the reinstatement of the tax,..."--- NY Sun report [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989
"When I ran for Mayor both times, I was asked very, very often to do the following: Pledge that you will never raise taxes. I refused to do that. Pledge that you will lower taxes. I refused to do that." -- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, October 25, 1994
Mr. Giuliani criticized Mr. Patakis proposal to cut taxes as a shell game that would hurt everyone in the state
-- New York Times, October 30, 1994
[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm? Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position.... ABC News February 6, 2000
TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports. GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing. - CNN December 2, 1999
BLITZER: If you were in the Senate and [President Clinton] vetoed, once again, the [ban on the] so-called partial-birth abortion procedure, you would vote against sustaining that against the -- in favor of the veto in other words, you would support the president on that. GIULIANI: Yes. I said then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it. BLITZER: All right. So the bottom line is that on a lot of these very sensitive issues whether on guns, abortion, patients' bill of rights, taxes, you are more in line with the president and by association, with Mrs. Clinton, than you are against them. - CNN February 6, 2000
MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that? MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York... MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000] MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else.... MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement? MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views - NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000
Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison |
Issue
|
Giuliani |
Clinton |
Dem Platform |
GOP Platform |
Abortion on Demand |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Partial Birth Abortion |
Supports Opposed NY ban |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Roe v. Wade |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Taxpayer Funded Abortions |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Embryonic Stem Cell Research |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Federal Marriage Amendment |
Opposes |
Opposes |
Opposes Defined at state level |
Supports |
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Openly Gay Military |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Defense of Marriage Act |
Opposes |
Opposes |
Opposes |
Supports |
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens |
Opposes |
Opposes |
Opposes |
Supports |
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
Opposes |
Protecting 2nd Amendment |
Opposes
|
Opposes |
Opposes Supports bans |
Supports |
Confiscating Guns |
Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged. |
Supports |
Supports Supports bans |
Opposes |
'Assault' Weapons Ban |
Supports |
Supports |
Supports |
|
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers |
Supports Filed One Himself |
Supports |
|
Opposes |
Gun Registration/Licenses |
Supports |
Supports |
|
Opposes |
War in Afghanistan |
Supports |
Supports Voted for it |
Supports |
Supports |
War in Iraq |
Supports |
Supports Voted for it |
Supports Weak support |
Supports |
Patriot Act |
Supports |
Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006 |
Opposes |
Supports |
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posted on
04/18/2007 5:50:25 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: Man50D
Did you have to do that? I used up enough bandwidth with this poll that I couldn’t even post the whole thing. Why don’t you just discuss the poll?
To: areafiftyone
And here I was going to try a new game; in after the ping, and before the first Rudy hater. Too late!
Better luck next time.
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:01:47 PM PDT
by
Bernard
(The price used to be 30 pieces of silver; now it's a spinach subsidy.)
To: areafiftyone
Is Rudy male or female? Or both or neither?
Clearly he is liberal...
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:04:26 PM PDT
by
babygene
(Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
To: Bernard
You will never be able to - I think the best time was 26 seconds before a Rudy Hater came on. LOL!
To: Man50D
You should really proofread it first. There’s a couple annoying typos in there. Other than that, it’s garbage.
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:08:17 PM PDT
by
Gop1040
To: areafiftyone
To be that quick, they must run two sessions with different ID’s on the screen and a name that is on your ping list. It is good to see that people have a hobby.
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:12:03 PM PDT
by
Bernard
(The price used to be 30 pieces of silver; now it's a spinach subsidy.)
To: areafiftyone
Did you have to do that? I used up enough bandwidth with this poll that I couldnt even post the whole thing. Why dont you just discuss the poll?
It's a public forum. We both have the right to inform. There is no size limit per FR rules on posting a reply. You should direct your complaint to Jim Robinson. I'll be posting this information many more times in the future whenever there is a thread about socialist Giuliani.
Polls, especially this early are misleading at best. Some points about polls:
1. They poll a small percentage of a given population.
2. Pollsters can target a group of people pollsters know will respond in a specific way.
3. Questions can be structured to elicit a specific response.
4. Pollsters can disregard questions they deem undesirable and continue to ask the question until they get the desired response.
The majority of Republicans are unaware of Giuliani's positions on abortion, gun control, and same-sex marriage.
The list in post #4 will make some aware
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:12:42 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: areafiftyone; Man50D
Why dont you just discuss the poll?My fingers get sore just from rolling past the same damn spam posted by a number of the Fredbots or Duncanbots.
A link to the spam would save my fingers from getting blisters.
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:14:39 PM PDT
by
Ole Okie
To: Man50D
Well have fun spamming the same thing the others spam then. o originality. We've seen the chart since it's inception.
So if your guy (whomever that is) was #1 in the poll then this poll wouldn't mean a thing either? Since you say that these polls are misleading. I just wonder if you would say the same thing.
To: Bernard
Ahhh so That is how they do it. And I thought they just had a crush on me! ;-)
To: areafiftyone
Democracy is now and always has been MOB Rule by mobsters..
Basically Tribal Law with creative tribes.. very primitive government..
Nothing democratic about it at all.. never was never will be..
Fully as democratic as any Mafia..
14
posted on
04/18/2007 6:21:16 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
To: areafiftyone; Ole Okie
So if your guy (whomever that is) was #1 in the poll then this poll wouldn't mean a thing either? Since you say that these polls are misleading. I just wonder if you would say the same thing.
Neither of you should assume I'm a "fredbot" or a "Duncanbot" especially since I haven't stated I favor any candidate this early. It would be foolish for any candidate or supporter to get lulled into a false sense of security by any favorable poll. That's a sure way to let your guard down and lose the primary or election.
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:23:15 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: areafiftyone
I see the spamorama has not let up. And I had such high hopes :-)
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:24:15 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: Man50D
Oh I didn’t assume you were a Fred or Duncanbot. You could easily be a Romney or Brownback or even Ron Paul supporter - there are alot of them on FR. I just meant the candidate you prefer.
To: Peach
LOL! Sorry to say nothing has changed Peach! Welcome to the Jungle! ;-)
To: areafiftyone
Here's the interesting things about this poll. Giuliani's numbers went down and he's stuck in the 30s. He is at essentially the same level of support as he had in January. Whatever momentum he had is gone.
The polls also shows that most Republicans still have no idea what Giuliani's positions on social issues are. Bad news for Rudy. Fully one-third of Republicans are unhappy with the current choices for president. Bad news for the big three. In the head to head with McCain, 10% of Giuliani's supporters believe McCain is "too moderate" reflecting the fact that they are unaware of Giuliani's positions.
The poll also shows that the overwhelming issue in the recent mid-terms was the Iraq war, putting the lie to all those who keep blaming social conservatives and advocating a more "moderate" (read liberal) posture by the GOP.
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:31:01 PM PDT
by
garv
(Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
To: areafiftyone; HitmanLV
Great info, thanks.
Though McCain is doing a bit better, Rudy is still Numero Uno, LOL.
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posted on
04/18/2007 6:38:36 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(If you think the world's dangerous, and you need a tough guy... that's me [Rudy] --Newt Gingrich)
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