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To: spunkets

Your knowledge is limited. There is a thread on FR about a christian college student who was commited on the say so of a college president. He is suing.

Get a clue, a temporary order is not an “adjudication”. It is the first step toward one being made.

A judge cannot adjudicate someone mentally ill without a psychiatric evaluation and has no way of getting a psychiatric evaluation of an unwilling person except to make a temporary order.

BTW “someone’s say so” is evidence. It’s called testimony and is used every day in courts and it’s notoruisly bad in the case of eyewitness testimony and not much better in the case of many experts.

Which is why a temporary order is not an ajudication, it’s based on minimal evidence like a warrant, basically the say so of the cop requesting it, who is basing his testimony on the complaints of citizens.


195 posted on 04/20/2007 11:18:48 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Social vs fiscal conservtism? Sorry, I'm not voting my wallet over the broken bodies of the innocent)
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To: Valpal1
"There is a thread on FR about a christian college student who was commited on the say so of a college president. He is suing."

Link? A committment never rests on the word of a non-professional witness. It rests on the word of physicians. The person must also have the benefit of an atty to represent them.

"a temporary order is not an “adjudication”. It is the first step toward one being made."

Wrong. The order is irrelevant, the court's finding is not. The finding and ruling made by the judge said, Cho was a danger to himself, due to mental defect. The order was to be evaluated and take treatment. Fed law doesn't care about the order, only the finding.

"Which is why a temporary order is not an ajudication, it’s based on minimal evidence like a warrant, basically the say so of the cop requesting it, who is basing his testimony on the complaints of citizens."

The complainants, police, and the judge thought Cho was a danger to himself. The evidence was not only the stlking, it was the testimony of the professional who signed the same ruling the judge did. Cho provided his own evidence, see the doc's comments on the ruling. See Cho was already examined by a doc, before the judge made the ruling, and Cho had the benefit of counsel. The ruling was valid and it disqualified him from engaging in any firearm transfer under fed law.

196 posted on 04/20/2007 1:34:34 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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