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Surge in Birth Rates Among Hispanics Creating New U.S. Underclass
Dallas Morning News ^ | Jan.21, '07 | Heather MacDonald

Posted on 04/17/2007 3:41:01 AM PDT by T.L.Sink

...the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. By 2050 the Latin population will have tripled, the Census Bureau projects. It's the fertility surge among unwed Hispanics that should worry policymakers. Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country - over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Social workers in Southern California... are in despair over the epidemic of single parenting. Not only has illegitimacy become perfectly acceptable, they say, but so has the welfare and social services to cope with it. Dr. Ana Sanchez delivers babies at St. Joseph's Hospital in Orange, California, many of them to Hispanic teenagers. To her dismay, they view having a child at that age as normal. Alot of grandmothers are single as well; they never married, or they had successive relationships. "We're seeing 13-and 14-year old fathers," says Kathleen Collins, vice president of health education. ...the prevalence of single parenting among Hispanics is producing the inevitable slide into the welfare system. Hispanics now dominate the federal Women, Infants, and Children free food program; Hispanic enrollment grew more that 25% from 1996 to 2002, while black enrollment dropped 12% and white enrollment dropped 6.5%. A case manager at a program for pregnant homeless women in Orange observes, "I'll have women in my office on their fifth child, when the others have already been placed in foster care. There's nothing shameful about having multiple children that you can't care for and to be pregnant again, because, then you can blame the system."

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To: wideawake

The ultimate result, the tranformation of the United States will be the same, just like the result was the same for the Native culture that was displaced here.

I am perfectly happy with the results of the lax Indian immigration policy. I just don’t want history repeating itself with the US being the losers.


61 posted on 04/17/2007 8:48:38 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: wideawake

“Numbers do not define invasions.

An invasion is a coordinated military action undertaken for the purpose of seizing and holding territory for a foreign power.”

in·va·sion
n.

1. The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer.
2. A large-scale onset of something injurious or harmful, such as a disease.
3. An intrusion or encroachment.

invasion

IN BRIEF: Encroachment or entrance without being asked or wanted.

pronunciation An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not the invasion of ideas. — Victor Hugo (1802-1885), French poet, dramatist, novelist.


62 posted on 04/17/2007 8:54:03 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: wideawake
He had applied for and received a green card before he was allowed to sign up for the US military - the US military ensures that all foreign citizens that apply for admission to the armed forces first get all their paperwork completed for a residency application before they are inducted.

So he was legal.

My point was to defuse emotionalism: to point out there are people who come here illegally who are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for this country. They are not all drug dealers, or violent felons, or revanchist ideologues.

That doesn't make their illegal entry any less of a crime. The person you mentioned was only 3 at the time, so I don't hold him legally responsible for his entry, which is probably why the USG changed his legal status. Willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the US is not a criterion to enter this country legally.

Quite a few [prison population. Yet proportionally a far smaller number than native-born African-Americans.

Typical racist reasoning. Put down another minority group to make a point. The number of illegal aliens in prison is disproportinate to their numbers. One third of California's penal system is filled with illegals and about one-quarter of the Federal system. And just by being here, all illegal aliens have committed an illegal act. They are all criminals, at least the adults. I would also posit that most are guilty of identity theft and not paying their taxes.

Not all negative cultural dynamics emanate from without our borders.

Agreed. But do we need to import more problems from abroad by not securing our borders? How many American citizens' lives have been affected adversely by illegal aliens who have committed violent crimes against them or been involved in car accidents because of their negligence?

64 posted on 04/17/2007 9:15:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
So he was legal.

He was illegal until he found out that the military would help him get his legal residency if he signed up. Basically the Army said: "Don't worry if you're illegal. We can expedite the paperwork and get you legal in time to ship out."

His legality was a technical piece of tissue paper.

Willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the US is not a criterion to enter this country legally.

Many of the Irish alluded to on this thread were allowed to stay purely on their willingness to take up arms in the war on the Confederacy.

Typical racist reasoning. Put down another minority group to make a point.

Not at all. The racism was in singling out illegal Latinos as an ethnic group inherently more criminal than native-born Americans.

The number of illegal aliens in prison is disproportinate to their numbers. One third of California's penal system is filled with illegals

Again, there are ethnic groups that are even more disproportionately represented in relation to their numbers than illegal Latinos.

and about one-quarter of the Federal system.

Since the Federal system deals specifically with interstate and cross-border offenses that the states do not deal with, it stands to reason that a very high proportion of Federal inmates would be illegal aliens.

How many American citizens' lives have been affected adversely by illegal aliens who have committed violent crimes against them or been involved in car accidents because of their negligence?

Quite a few. Which is why we need stronger border enforcment.

65 posted on 04/17/2007 9:50:36 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: TonyRo76

On the contary, the immigrant Irish were famous for their lawbreaking. Contempt for the law also explains the corruptionof the Irish dominated political machines. The English treated the Irish like dirt back in Ireland, so they had no respect for English law on either side of the pond. As in the black community, the church was the main restraint of their behavior.


66 posted on 04/17/2007 9:57:32 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: wideawake
He was illegal until he found out that the military would help him get his legal residency if he signed up. Basically the Army said: "Don't worry if you're illegal. We can expedite the paperwork and get you legal in time to ship out."

LOL. Are you sucking that scenario out of your thumb? "Expediting the paperwork" implies that he was already engaged in the process of becoming legal.

His legality was a technical piece of tissue paper.

My wife is a naturalized citizen. I attended her citizenship ceremony. For you to characterize the change of his status as "a technical piece of tissue paper," is to demean what it means to be a legal resident/citizen of this country.

Many of the Irish alluded to on this thread were allowed to stay purely on their willingness to take up arms in the war on the Confederacy.

Different time, different circumstance. Many Americans also bought their way out of the draft. Blacks were slaves.

Not at all. The racism was in singling out illegal Latinos as an ethnic group inherently more criminal than native-born Americans.

The operative word is ILLEGAL. They are law breakers by definition--all of them.

Again, there are ethnic groups that are even more disproportionately represented in relation to their numbers than illegal Latinos. Since the Federal system deals specifically with interstate and cross-border offenses that the states do not deal with, it stands to reason that a very high proportion of Federal inmates would be illegal aliens.

You are defending the indefensible. They shouldn't be here in the first place. They are ILLEGAL whether they are in jail or working or walking around the mall. Either we are a nation of laws or we are not.

Quite a few. Which is why we need stronger border enforcment.

And whose responsibility is that and why isn't it being done now?

67 posted on 04/17/2007 10:05:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: T.L.Sink

Ok, I’m confused. This post says I should be concerned about the growing birth rate in the US due to Hispanics. I have seen other post on FR which says we are throwing away our way of life since we are NOT keeping up with the muslim birth rates. Which am I suppose to support.


69 posted on 04/17/2007 10:57:53 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: wideawake

Most of the Irish came over after the potato famine of the 1840’s but I think you’re wrong in assuming they are so ethnocentric and “Irish first” as you seem to suggest. First, there are very few people of “pure” Irish descent except perhaps for some recent immigrants. That alone suggests they have assimilated into the American culture. The America you seem to describe sounds more like the balkanized Autro-Hungarian Empire. At best, the attitude you suggest is a very tiny minority in the USA of 300 million.


70 posted on 04/17/2007 11:02:06 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: wideawake

Big difference between Irish immigrants of 100 years ago and the current trend of hispanic illegals overwhelming our country. You should know better, FRiend.


71 posted on 04/17/2007 11:03:00 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: wideawake
"...I don't remember any Mexican army seizing Los Angeles, burning down all the major buildings, sacrificing the city council to Quetzacoatl and using the Hollywood Bowl as a holding pen/venue to auction off enslaved Anglos..."

Give it time. Your ignorance is appalling and offensive.

72 posted on 04/17/2007 11:06:44 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: wideawake
I don't remember any Mexican army seizing Los Angeles, burning down all the major buildings, sacrificing the city council to Quetzacoatl and using the Hollywood Bowl as a holding pen/venue to auction off enslaved Anglos.

Gee, considering Mexico is nearly ninety-five percent Roman Catholic and Catholics obviously don't believe in making sacrifices to Quetzalcoatl it's obvious you don't know sh** about Mexico or Mexicans.

73 posted on 04/17/2007 11:42:31 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: MSF BU
California is now a perpetual Democratic Party stronghold.

AZ and NM will be solid blue by 2012 and Texas Solidly Democratic by 2016.

It will be tough for the GOP to win national elections when they will have to cede CA, NY and TX to the Democrats.

74 posted on 04/17/2007 11:47:12 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Cyropaedia
Gee, considering Mexico is nearly ninety-five percent Roman Catholic and Catholics obviously don't believe in making sacrifices to Quetzalcoatl it's obvious you don't know sh** about Mexico or Mexicans.

Clearly you are a very literal thinker.

The poster above was comparing Mexicans to the pagan Goth barbarians who invaded Rome.

So I was facetiously coming up with a scenario in which pagan Mexican barbarians invade Los Angeles. Historically, the last time Mexicans were barbarians was centuries ago back in the days before Christianity, when they actually worshipped Quetzacoatl.

Lighten up, Francis.

75 posted on 04/17/2007 11:51:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Even so it should read Toltecs or Aztecs.

Go peddle your immigration nonsense elsewhere.

76 posted on 04/17/2007 12:04:14 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: wideawake

Sir:

Unchecked Mexican immigration is NOT GOOD for America. My wife is 100% Tejano, and her family has been in Texas since the 1820’s, and SHE doesn’t like what is happening. The illegals are not assimilating, but simply using us.
Some of my own ancestors came over from Ireland 7 Scotland, but were proud to become Americans. These illegals have no desire to do so. They want our money, our benefits, and that is ALL!


77 posted on 04/17/2007 12:16:47 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.......)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Unchecked Mexican immigration is NOT GOOD for America.

No one on the thread is arguing in favor of the current chaos.

All I'm arguing is that there are indeed millions of Mexicans who would make good US citizens and they should be allowed to emigrate here.

78 posted on 04/17/2007 12:22:44 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Clearly you are a very literal thinker.

Pot.Kettle.Black. Look in the mirror bud regarding your "thoughts" on the word "invasion".
79 posted on 04/17/2007 2:55:58 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak
Look in the mirror bud regarding your "thoughts" on the word "invasion".

The word "invasion" is deliberately used as a loaded word to inspire paranoid sentiments.

80 posted on 04/17/2007 2:57:40 PM PDT by wideawake
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