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To: freespirited
Thirty-one people died in Blacksburg, VA today. The cause of death was liberalism.

Wrong! Their cause of death was a freak who thought it was a good idea to start executing people. Gun control, or the lack thereof, had absolutely nothing to do with the situation.

Conservatives have no more business hijacking a tragedy of this sort than the gun-control advocates do trying to further crack down on guns. It's crass opportunism at its worst.

26 posted on 04/16/2007 1:43:58 PM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: jude24
Wrong! Their cause of death was a freak who thought it was a good idea to start executing people. Gun control, or the lack thereof, had absolutely nothing to do with the situation. Conservatives have no more business hijacking a tragedy of this sort than the gun-control advocates do trying to further crack down on guns. It's crass opportunism at its worst.

Sorry, asshat, but you are the one who is wrong. This is liberalism at it's finest and anyone who thinks otherwise is actually a liberal themselves whether they realize it or not. IF they had passed the CCW law and allowed students who have permits to carry on campus with their firearms it is highly likely this event wouldn't have occured, and if it had there is every chance in the world that some student would have shot the SOB after, or before, he killed many people. They left these people unarmed, liberals did that, and this is the consequence. Yes, the shooter is to blame for carrying out his act, but liberals are to blame that he had the chance to carry it out without opposition.

Go over to DU because it is clear you are no conservative.

31 posted on 04/16/2007 1:54:16 PM PDT by calex59
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To: jude24

“Gun control, or the lack thereof, had absolutely nothing to do with the situation.”


You are right that it didin’t have anything to do with the situation however, it might have had something to do with the end result.


44 posted on 04/16/2007 2:10:13 PM PDT by TDA2
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To: jude24
[Wrong! Their cause of death was a freak who thought it was a good idea to start executing people. Gun control, or the lack thereof, had absolutely nothing to do with the situation.

Conservatives have no more business hijacking a tragedy of this sort than the gun-control advocates do trying to further crack down on guns. It’s crass opportunism at its worst.]

Hijacking a tragedy? We wear seatbelts in cars. Not because we expect to be involved in a crash but just in case. We keep fire extinguishers in our house. Not because we expect the house to burn down. The government does not dare outlaw fire extinguishers or seatbelts because we have a right to proactively defend ourselves against an unlikely tragedy. Guns are different, apparently.

Now, I don’t disagree with your political opportunism sentiments. However, don’t ignore the importance of having a fire extinguisher by your bed when you wake to a raging fire in your home. Nor can you ignore the effect that having one legally armed and responsible student present at VA Tech somewhere in the mix during today’s tragedy. It is a subject worthy of debate. Properly equipped, most Americans rise to the occasion when confronted with situations like today’s. The powers to be have ensured that the opportunity for ordinary students to do something extraordinary, like saves lives, was absent. Worse, it was only recently the subject of debate on campus and in VA courts.

Again, politically charged or not, it is what it was and was not.

52 posted on 04/16/2007 2:17:25 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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To: jude24; freespirited
There will always be freaks -- there's nothing we can do to change that. People, including freaks, will always find a way to access weapons to inflict harm -- there's nothing we can do to change that, either. Yet jude24 smugly declares:

Their cause of death was a freak who thought it was a good idea to start executing people.

Wrong! Their cause of death was their state of defenselessness. It assured the freak that A) he would meet with zero resistance and B) could go on killing until the cops showed up.

Sure, your declaration that their cause of death was a freak with a gun sounds like level-headed common sense, but you've fooled yourself and are in danger of fooling others.

Remember: there will always be freaks -- there's nothing we can do to change that. People, including freaks, will always find a way to access weapons to inflict harm -- there's nothing we can do to change that, either.

There's only one aspect of the equation that we can change: peoples' abilities to defend themselves. If you're going to deal with reality, then you must accept that the ONLY factor that's going to make a difference is the one you CAN change. That truly is common sense.

Indeed, liberalism and gun control DID kill these victims.

58 posted on 04/16/2007 2:27:52 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: jude24
Conservatives have no more business hijacking a tragedy of this sort than the gun-control advocates do trying to further crack down on guns. It's crass opportunism at its worst.

It is irresponsible to tell the story without pointing out the fact that over 30 people were brutally murdered because they were denied, by the state, the right to defend themselves.

That's not opportunism, it's a fact.

92 posted on 04/16/2007 5:34:23 PM PDT by jess35
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