[MaestroLC]

Morning, MLC! Here's the deal. We had Reagan 1 (pro-life), Reagan 2 (pro-life), GHW Bush (pro-life), Clinton 1 (pro-death), Clinton 2 (pro-death), GW Bush 1 (pro-life), GW Bush 2 (pro-life)...and we still have abortion. Why do we have an abortion litmus test when apparently a POTUS can do absolutely nothing about abortion? I see this attack on Rudy constantly and it has never made sense to me.

Why do we have laws against murder, since it occurs anyway? The point is that we have to have someone at the top that espouses the principal that abortion is killing a life, even if we all know abortion is going to happen anyway. Rudy has a problem because he is pro-choice, and he is telling us pro-life conservatives to compromise our beliefs in order to win in 2008. Liberals do that all the time; they have no principals to stand on. Why should I abandon by principals just for Rudy Giuliani to win? That is what doesn't make sense to me.

[sofaman]

"Why do we have laws against murder, since it occurs anyway?"

Murder is illegal, abortion is not. We can't equate the 2.

The point is that we have to have someone at the top that espouses the principal that abortion is killing a life, even if we all know abortion is going to happen anyway.

Here's the thing that I wrestle with. I am without question anti-abortion. I recognize that abortion is the taking of a life. It's not arguable. Now. Do I want abortion to be illegal?

[Eagle of Liberty]

Why do we have laws against murder, since it occurs anyway? The point is that we have to have someone at the top that espouses the principal that abortion is killing a life, even if we all know abortion is going to happen anyway.

If you are relying on a political figure or any law to determine what is moral or immoral, you can be led astray. We place too much emphasis on how POLITICIANS want us to morally act. IMO, the Lord has told me most of what I need to know in 10 simple statements. If I follow those, I figure I am doing pretty good, no matter who is elected President.

One of my lessons that I have lived by: Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's moral.

But I do agree with you. Having a person in a position like the Presidency with a complete pro-life stance could sway public opinion.