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To: Trust but Verify
Oh, good grief! Maybe because when they tried the doors, they couldn’t open them? CHAINED doors would be evident, even from the outside.

How do you know any police tried to open the doors? Where did this information come from?

It's obvious no police tried to open the doors since no police:

Only faculty and students were injured/killed.

The police all waited outside, apparently. No one wanted to get close to this guy.

I'm not a police-hater or anything, but this appears to be a simple fact.

How many police approached this guy in the five hours between 7:15 and around 12:20 or 12:30 when he killed himself?

Zero.

Ziltch.

Zip.

Notta.

It's a darn good thing the shooter killed himself because who knows what else might have happened had he not.

4,525 posted on 04/17/2007 6:55:05 AM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Oh, aren’t you just so in-the-know! You must have BEEN THERE!


4,540 posted on 04/17/2007 6:59:44 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: jdm
How many police approached this guy in the five hours between 7:15 and around 12:20 or 12:30 when he killed himself?

Zero.

Ziltch.

Zip.

Notta.

It's a darn good thing the shooter killed himself because who knows what else might have happened had he not.

Yikes. I hadn't even thought of that. When did the killing spree start in the classrooms, around 9:15 or 9:45 AM? That's still over 2 hours for the cops to take this guy down.

4,543 posted on 04/17/2007 7:01:16 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: jdm

He very likely killed himself LONG before 12:30. I think we need to wait for the full timeline to understand the history.

My SPECULATION is that there was SOME shooting at Norris, then a lull while the police arrived. If there was no shooting while they were outside, they wouldn’t have barged in, but would be waiting for a quiet way to open the doors and sneak in (like cutters, which one film showed a guy coming with chain cutters).

But then the tape from the guy’s cell shows a bunch of shots, and when the shots started the police run over and there is an “explosion” (could well be blowing the door). Suggests that once the shooting started again, the police DID storm the building.

Speculation continues: Some reports say that the guy shot himself when he was “surrounded”. It doesn’t say WHO surrounded him, but with no students having guns, you could guess that the police surrounded him and he shot himself rather than surrendering. That would mean that the police didn’t immediately shoot him. Of course, the police had to be careful not to accidentally shoot the wrong student, students could have been running around in the halls trying to get away.


4,546 posted on 04/17/2007 7:02:17 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jdm
The students have said it best......

The only one to blame is the murderer himself.

4,551 posted on 04/17/2007 7:04:35 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: jdm
How do you know any police tried to open the doors? Where did this information come from?

Um... the news and stuff. There's a lot of it going around.

From a local TV station.

9:45 am
Virginia Tech police receive a 911 call about a shooting at Norris Hall Norris Hall includes faculty offices, classrooms, labs Virginia Tech and Blacksburg Police respond immediately Officers arrive and find front door barricaded by chains from the inside Within one minute police break through doors and hear gun shots Gunshot sounds lead them to the second floor Gunshot sounds end and police find gunman had taken his own life.

Your timeline of "5 hours" is flat out wrong.

4,561 posted on 04/17/2007 7:09:32 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: jdm
How many police approached this guy in the five hours between 7:15 and around 12:20 or 12:30 when he killed himself? Zero. Ziltch. Zip. Notta.

Ouch.

4,563 posted on 04/17/2007 7:10:10 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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