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To: dirtboy
“Our party is going to grow, and we are going to win in 2008 if we are a party characterized by what we’re for, not if we’re a party that’s known for what we’re against.” Asked about abortion, [Giuliani] said, “Our party has to get beyond issues like that.”

This is where the "abortion" issue becomes a much larger issue of character and philosophy, and why it is so hard for me to support Rudy.

We are FOR life for all humanity. We are for honoring the life that each person has, and the liberty and freedom each person deserves because they are made in God's image and after his likeness.

Rudy is AGAINST letting some people live. He is against granting every person protection from the selfish acts of others. He is against protecting the weakest among us from being trampled, murdered, torn apart by those with power who find the weak inconvenient.

But rather than being honest, he pretends that it's US that are "against" things. I guess so, we are against murder. But I thought Rudy was against criminals, against terrorists, against taxes, against out-of-control spending. What does me mean then when he says we should be about what we are FOR, and not what we are against?

Simply put, almost ANY issue can be described either positively, as what you are for, or negatively, as what you are against.

And Rudy is not simply pro-abortion, he takes a negative view of those who want to protect the unborn. He describes them in negative terms, and claims WE are the problem, not the women killing a million babies a year.

91 posted on 04/16/2007 6:05:30 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But rather than being honest, he pretends that it's US that are "against" things.

Plus, this completely obliterates his claim to be pro-life and anti-abortion - he frames the pro-life movement in a negative manner. I'm surprised any Rudy supporter has the gall to even try to frame Rudy in any kind of pro-life manner after his statements of the last few weeks, coupled with his past strong support of NARAL. But some do anyway.

98 posted on 04/16/2007 6:10:43 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
.....Rudy is AGAINST letting some people live. He is against granting every person protection from the selfish acts of others. He is against protecting the weakest among us from being trampled, murdered, torn apart by those with power who find the weak inconvenient....

Rudy isn't performing abortions. He didn't make the law. He has said he'd appoint Justices that could overturn Roe. He has stated he hates abortion, would counsel against it and encourages adoption. You don't want a president, you want a dictator.

113 posted on 04/16/2007 6:18:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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