Fair Tax (H.R. 25/ S. 1025). Currently more than 57 cosponsors.
http://linder.house.gov/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Resources.Home&Resource_id=1
It starts by understanding why the current system is unconstitutional and how it was snuck in real slow. The Russo film is a high quality film with extremely credible people in it including Ron Paul, Professors of Constitutional Law, former IRS agents, FBI agents, former Assistant Secretaries of Housing, reputable authors and social policy experts. These people are not kooks as the detractors in this thread would try to make people believe.
Here’s Russo’s film:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198
You have nothing to lose by watching it. Others on FR have watched it and came back to say it appeared legit to them. Many have said it was a big eye-opener.
So the first thing to do is watch the film, then take your time to digest what it shows you and verify over time through self-study whether it is truly legit or not.
This is a new movement and this is the ground floor of it. The goal is not to convince people that they don’t have to pay taxes, they do. The goal is to pay taxes in a Constitutional way which is the Fair Tax and get the IRS out of the private lives of Americans. That’s the goal.
We can’t get rid of the IRS because our government will always need a revenue collector. But under the Fair Tax the Civil Service under the IRS will be cut by more than 70% because the tax code will be vastly simplified.
Right now there is a group of high powered lawyers that is kicking the IRS’s tail in court. And that was just last year. They have filled their schedules for the next years to kick them again and again. Right now IRS is trying to suppress the info of these cases so they don’t get publicized. But it won’t work because like Glasnost there follows Perestroika, meaning people will start to see it in news and commentary in the near future and demand reform. You are seeing just a little skirmish here.
As you can see the aggressive supporters of the current IRS enforcement system on American individuals are on this thread right now working around the clock to discredit people and discourage others from seeing this film.
The Russo film is a unifying film. It’s not a wacked up ‘Fahrenheit 911’. It unites people across the spectrum. Although it talks about people that are nonfilers, it is not about that. It’s about the law and fraud, and about trends. It never says don’t pay your 1040 taxes. For me personally, I have always filed because like most people I have been conditioned to file. And I am still filing (tomorrow) because the IRS has the guns, the lawyers and the prisons. Since I will have to pay taxes under a Fair Tax anyways, I choose to pay 1040 taxes until the Fair Tax is passed. But I will protest the unconstitutionality of the 1040 taxes as it is my constitutional right to do so.
So the first step for people is to wake up.
Why hasn’t this been uncovered before? Because the tax code has been reorganized 5 times since 1919 and each time the references and sources get muddled. But there are other data sources such as the ‘United States Statutes at Large’ that show clearly there were never original source laws to back up alot of the IRS code in existence today.
And the second reason is that the original individual income tax that was imposed in 1913 had these tax brackets:
Income level Tax rate
up to $20,000 1%
$20,000 - $50,000 2%
$50,000 - $75,000 3%
$75,000 - $100,000 4%
$100,000 - $250,000 5%
$250,000 - $500,000 6%
over $500,000 7%
And more importantly more than 99% of Americans did not file.
Since the simplicity of that time we have seen the IRS grow into a KGB type of organization. Good people get ensnared and come out ruined even if they hold up in court because the attorney fees alone are a killer.
Today we have kids mowing grass who don’t even have bank accounts getting a 1099 reported to the IRS and they have to file a 1040 and Schedule E and send in both sides of FICA (6.2% each, 12.4%).
Because the IRS is now invading everyone’s life to an intolerable degree, people have started to fight back. And the first extraordinary discovery was that there is no ORIGINAL SOURCE PUBLIC LAW that authorized the mess we have today. It’s a discovery that is now making its way through blogs on the internet and it will make the theatres this summer. But you can see the film on the internet for free now.
So as long as the IRS early in its history was low keyed, people went along with its demands. Now it’s a different story.
Don't forget, 2.9% Medicare.
Right now there is a group of high powered lawyers that is kicking the IRS’s tail in court.....Right now IRS is trying to suppress the info of these cases so they don’t get publicized.
LOL!
And the first extraordinary discovery was that there is no ORIGINAL SOURCE PUBLIC LAW that authorized the mess we have today.
What about the 16th Amendment? Was that real?
Are you going to explain why he needs to use a guy who was disbarred from practice before the IRS and had his CPA ticket yanked by California like Joe Banister?
Are you going to explain why he needs to use a three-time convicted tax felon like Irwin Schiff?
Are you going to explain why he has to rely on a CPA who was raided by IRS CID like Jackson and a nut-ball conspirazoid like Griffin?
All you say about them is:
extremely credible people in it including (...) former IRS agents (...) reputable authors
"Former IRS agents" would be Banister and Jackson. Griffin is reputable only in his own mind.
You have nothing to lose by watching it.
It's called your time, which you can never get back. It could also be your money or your freedom, if someone is dumb enough to follow the real agenda of this propaganda which is that you don't have to pay taxes. This propaganda is worse than anything the idiotic Michael Moore ever put together. At least with his propaganda all you can lose is the time to watch it.
Others on FR have watched it and came back to say it appeared legit to them. Many have said it was a big eye-opener
Which only proves that there are some not-too-bright people around here.
This is a new movement and this is the ground floor of it
No it isn't. Tax protesters have been around for at least 50 years. Most of the leaders of the last 10 years are now in federal prison.
Right now there is a group of high powered lawyers that is kicking the IRS’s tail in court. And that was just last year. They have filled their schedules for the next years to kick them again and again.
Why do you keep bringing up the thoroughly debunked Lawrence OMB number case? Did you read the dozen or so OMB cases I cited and excerpted above? They're all losers. Nobody has ever won and Lawrence wouldn't have been the first, as the judge in the Lawrence case made clear when he denied Stilley's motion for fees.
Speaking of Stilley, Lawrence's lawyer is already quite familiar with sanctions for misconduct. And he lost his appeal to the 8th Circuit of sanctions imposed by a federal district court:
United States Court of Appeals
FOR THE EIGHTH CIRCUIT
No. 05-2816
Oscar Stilley, Appellant, Appeal from the United States
v. District Court for the Western District of Arkansas.
Submitted: May 25, 2006
Filed: May 26, 2006
Before ARNOLD, BYE, and COLLOTON, Circuit Judges.
PER CURIAM.
Attorney Oscar Stilley appeals the district court's imposition of sanctions under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11. We find no abuse of discretion in the imposition of Rule 11 sanctions. See Cooter & Gell v. Hartmarx Corp., 496 U.S. 384, 405 (1990). We are troubled by Stilley's mischaracterization of the record as to the applicability of Rule 11's safe-harbor provision and Rule 11(c)(1)(B). We reject Stilley's argument that the limitations the district court imposed on his practice constitute attorney discipline, as opposed to Rule 11 sanctions. See Stilley v. James, 48 Fed. Appx. 595, 597 (8th Cir. 2002) (unpublished per curiam) (finding no abuse of discretion in applying appropriately fashioned Rule 11 sanctions enjoining Stilley from filing future cases involving issues that had been litigated or raised in three lawsuits and two appeals; court acted appropriately by helping stop Stilley's pursuit of fruitless litigation). Accordingly, we affirm. See 8th Cir. R. 47B.
Pretty obvious why Stilley took the Lawrence case. He, like you, enjoys tilting at windmills. I'll guess that there are more sanctions in his future.
working around the clock to discredit people
LOL. People like Banister, Schiff, Jackson, Stilley and Schulz have all discredited themselves with no help from me or anyone else.
Because the tax code has been reorganized 5 times since 1919 and each time the references and sources get muddled.M
Cite the case that found so much as a single word of 26 USC unconstitutional.
But there are other data sources such as the ‘United States Statutes at Large’ that show clearly there were never original source laws to back up alot of the IRS code in existence today.
Name one provision in 26 USC that is not backed up by enacted legislation. Just one. Thousands of very smart lawyers have had 50 years to do it and save their clients hundreds of millions of dollars. They haven't done it. But you have the magic formula. LOL.
Today we have kids mowing grass who don’t even have bank accounts getting a 1099 reported to the IRS and they have to file a 1040 and Schedule E and send in both sides of FICA (6.2% each, 12.4%).
No kid or any other independent contractor gets a 1099 unless they earned more than $600 from a single customer. So what? It's the law. It's been the law for decades. If the same kid had worked at McDonald's, he would have had employee FICA withheld which would not be refunded. So what? It's the law.
I have no problem with people who support tax simplification and/or reduction, in fact I support it.
What I do have a problem with is Russo's garbage and people like you who pimp it while spouting totally frivolous and ridiculous tax protester nonsense which only discredit the entire flat-tax/NRST/tax-simplication effort.