Here you go
Posted on 04/13/2007 10:38:33 AM PDT by Spiff
Buy me a gun, Rudy
By Bruce Walker on Apr 11, 07
I was once an enthusiastic supporter of Rudy Giuliani and I am still an admirer of the magnificent job that he did as Mayor of New York. Rudy was also an absolutely fearless federal prosecutor who genuinely put his life on the line to break the back of organized crime. He has also been a loyal Republican, campaigning and helping Republicans - including those whose policies he may have disagreed with - when Republicans needed all the help they could get. There is a lot of good in Rudy. He would make a much better president than any Democrat. But, as his presidential bid begins to wilt, it is obvious that there are a lot of problems with Rudy.
Surely the most disappointing is his position on funding abortions. Although, to some extent, he has been misquoted, the gist of what Rudy said is just what most people believe: Giuliani supports tax dollars being used for abortion because he believes it is a constitutional right. And that is wrong on so very many levels.
Roe v. Wade is horrific constitutional law. It is, indeed, unconstitutional law. Before that odious ruling, abortion was legal or illegal depending upon what the people of the several states, through their elected officials, decided it should be. Abortion was treating just like murder or self-defense, both of which are still governed by state law (not federal judicial ukase.) What Roe v. Wade did – and Rudy knows this! – is to take what had been legal in some states, like his own state of New York, because the legislature of that state wanted it legal, and instead require that abortion be legal in every state. The dangers of this ought to be apparent to someone as bright as Rudy: a Supreme Court could reverse Roe v. Wade and declare that abortion was always murder. It was not a “pro-choice” ruling. It was simply the theft by the Supreme Court of constitutional powers clearly granted to the states.
But that is not the only flaw in Rudy’s position on funded abortions. It betrays a notion that government programs solve problems. Even if one believes that abortion should be legal, should the costs of abortions not be paid by the person wanting it? Or, if that person is poor, should not charitable organizations or families pay for the abortions? Requiring taxpayers, who have no choice about paying their taxes, to fund something morally repugnant to them is, itself, morally repugnant.
Even worse, Rudy has attempted to “clarify” his position by saying that because there is a right to an abortion in the Constitution, then there is a duty for government to help those who cannot “exercise” that constitutional right. What??? Since when did government become responsible for paying for citizens exercising their constitutional rights? If it was not abundantly clear that Rudy is not dumb like, say, John Kerry or Howard Dean or Al Gore, then I would say this sort of reasoning is downright dumb. But Rudy Giuliani is not dumb at all.
The Second Amendment guarantees the right to own guns. This is not a constitutional right that is in the shadows, as the ridiculous reasoning of Roe v. Wade finds, somewhere around the Eighth Amendment of the Bill of Rights. The right to bear arms is right there in the Second Amendment. It is spelled out. Moreover, the right to bear arms is predicated on the right of self-defense: the right to defend oneself and one’s family from danger. This is exactly the sort of right which Roe v. Wade purports to assert: a woman has the right to protect her reproductive processes.
So if government has a “duty” to pay for women who want to have recreational abortions, then, Rudy, does government have a duty to pay for my firearms? Conservatives are a bit antsy when you have said that gun control in New York is way different than gun control in Flyover Country, because New York had such a serious crime problem, etc. We could, however, buy that if you bought the argument that abortion, too, is an issue that each state should decide for itself. New York, again, had legal abortion at the time of Roe v. Wade. The decision was an attempt to cram the moral thinking of New York down the throats of us yahoos in Flyover Country. But if you believe that the law, as passed by that legislative body we call the Supreme Court, provides rights, then surely those rights should be the same everywhere. And if constitutional rights should be funded by taxpayers, then I have a request: Rudy, buy me a gun.
Here you go
Rudy butt-boy PRND21 here to grace us with his thoughts....
No way, you’ve got to take your lumps like everyone else that makes a funny typo in the title.
Looks like the turnout was low during Hillary’s last campaign stop.
“He has also been a loyal Republican..”
ONLY since 9-1-1 and he saw the light ahead of a potential White House residence.
In his past as a “Republican” Mayor, he had supported two leftist Democrat governors against two Republican candidates who were hardly foaming at the mouth conservatives like me. He also campaigned cross Country with Mr. Bill Clinton, working for his “Anti-Crime Bill.”
He also worked to undermine INS over illegal aliens, against lawful gun manufacturers, etc.
The only nice thing about him was his crime war in New York City and the fact that he isn;t Hillery Clinton, Barrack Obama, etc., which might make the difference for me. But I’m still hoping for Thompson, Cort, Tancredo, or Huckabee.
The MG-3 is WAY better, however, it does eat ammo...
I'm not committed to Rudy for Prez, but am sickened by the attacks here against him.
You illustrated that nicely, lapdog.
“Everyone I know has a big “But”. Rudy, let’s talk about your big “But”...”
Rudy, I'd prefer it in black, but I'll settle for OD.
“I hate it when people do that...”
I think my funniest is when I posted something about “Hompsexuality”
Something like RKBA clearly spelled out in the 2nd amendment he is totally blind to.
“The federal government’s effort to overturn “Executive Order 124” is not only bad policy, it is a violation of the U.S. Constitution. It is my opinion that the new law is unfair because discriminates based on immigration status.”
http://www.ibisnetwork.com/giuliani/text/immkenn.html
ROTF!
If that revolver were to scale, it would have about a 15” barrel to be able to be twisted up like that.
Oh, and the UN can pound sand when it comes to privately owned firearms.
Ahh, shucks. The old title was more fun.
Junk in the trunk bump for Spiff!
Why? Do you know him personally? If not, who the hell cares what freepers post about him. He's a politician. F him.
Since Free Republic was invented FReepers have engaged in attacks against liberals. Why should that change? If you don't like it when people attack liberals, then either don't read them or leave and find a forum where they're nicer to liberal scum. Oh wait, you already did.
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