Posted on 04/13/2007 10:18:17 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Lawyer: Rove didn't mean to delete email By LAURIE KELLMAN Karl Rove's lawyer on Friday dismissed the notion that President Bush's chief political adviser intentionally deleted his own e-mails from a Republican-sponsored server, saying Rove believed the communications were being preserved in accordance with the law.
The issue arose because the White House and Republican National Committee have said they may have lost e-mails from Rove and other administration officials. Democratically chaired congressional committees want those e-mails for their probe of the firings of eight federal prosecutors.
"His understanding starting very, very early in the administration was that those e-mails were being archived," Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, said.
The prosecutor probing the Valerie Plame spy case saw and copied all of Rove's e-mails from his various accounts after searching Rove's laptop, his home computer, and the handheld computer devices he used for both the White House and Republican National Committee, Luskin said.
The prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, subpoenaed the e-mails from the White House, the RNC and Bush's re-election campaign, he added.
"There's never been any suggestion that Fitzgerald had anything less than a complete record," Luskin said.
Any e-mails Rove deleted were the type of routine deletions people make to keep their inboxes orderly, Luskin said. He said Rove had no idea the e-mails were being deleted from the server, a central computer that managed the e-mail.
On Thursday, one Democratic committee chairman said his understanding was that the RNC believed Rove might have been deleting his e-mails and in 2005 took action to preserve them in accordance with the law and pending legal action.
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You know what would be refreshing, just one time if somebody would just say, “You’re damned right I deleted them, and I would do the same thing again. I did nothing wrong.”
Instead politicians just keep insisting on insulting our intelligence.
Just because he deleted them at his computer doesn’t mean they don’t still exist on some server somewhere. Are they now going to require everyone to keep all their old emails? Will they be allowed to delete the spam?
Yes. They have passed a law that pretty much means every company has to keep a copy of e-mails, IMs, pretty much everything now.
Sounds familiar.......
Heh heh.
Karl Rove:
I’ve good news and bad news.
The bad news: I deleted the emails.
The good news: I found more of Hilda’s billing records.
I agree with Leahy: the emails can’t be deleted.
Absolutely!
Here is the text of an email I sent to a lawyer for the RNC this morning.
Good Day to you Mr. Kelner:
My name is Kenn Dobnak, an activist in Colorado for the Republican party. I
have been following what I call the “art of governing” as opposed the
term “politics” since the Reagan years of the early 80s.
I just finished reading a portion of the Waxman letter that was referred to
via “the politico” site by the Drudge Report.
In that story there is a considerable amount of ink given to Karl Rove and
email accounts used by some 50 odd people from the White House using RNC
accounts.
I find it beyond reaching and witch hunting for a Congressman, especially one
with the enormous partisanship of Henry Waxman, to be pursuing this on
government time.
It is my recommendation that Waxman be denied access to these emails or the
bits of data like addresses/addressors/dates/subject lines. It is a privacy
violation to begin with, as individuals in the Constitutional Republic have a
right to privacy. It would also never end.
Can we even begin to imagine the chilling effect of communication between
people in this country if they were to find that email exchanges can be asked
for and reviewed for partisan political purposes.
Can we even begin to imagine what a Republican Congress would have found had
the same investigations been taken up in the Clinton White House, especially
communications between Johnny Chung types?
The laughter at DNC headquarters and at the White House would have resounded
around the entire globe had Republicans requested such data exchanges.
Waxman needs to hear loud and clear that the request will be denied in its
entirety. I suggest this be done in a White House Press Conference, and that
the clear chilling effect point be clearly articulated for all to hear and
see what an impact this would have on the national dialoge. This would also
seek to fend off the Democrats from starting a stonewalling and coverup story
out of it.
Sincerely,
Kenn
Delete is my favorite key.
Let’s see:
Sandy Berger steals and destroys national security documents and nobody cares. No one is foaming at the mouth to find out what was in those documents......
Karl Rove has some deleted emails. Democrats are pissing in their long pants......
WHAT IS WRONG???????????
Sandy Bergler didn’t mean to stuff national archive documents in his pants and socks, either. Once again, the Lamestream tries to spin a non-issue into another Watergate.
When this improper activity came to light, all anyone in the media seemed to care about was the sanctity of the Democrats' email accounts. Miranda didn't break into the accounts or falsify anything; he took advantage of the fact that the Democrats apparently left the stuff on an open server. Anyway, the "scandal" became the Republican improperly (!) getting these emails, not the content of the messages themselves.
My point is: if these emails were so sacred, how then does the Senate now get to demand full disclosure of email messages from the executive branch? The situations seem very similar to me. In both cases, you have an argument that outside forces (either liberal interest groups or Republican party groups) had an improper influence on decisions made by a branch of government (legislative or executive) on judicial issues (judicial nominees or US attorneys). The question of liberal influence wielded by special interest groups to deny hearings to appointees was deemed irrelevant-- the issue became how dare Manuel Miranda leak those emails. Now, though, the Democrats are actually demanding that emails be turned over to them as part of a hearing. If Ted Kennedy's emails were privileged, aren't Karl Rove's? I think this comparison is even more illustrative than the Sandy Berger outrage.
RYMB BTTT!
Quote:
“I agree with Leahy: the emails can’t be deleted.”
Shredding software is getting more and more popular.
It doesn’t just remove pointers to the data or overwrite the first few blocks (though some overwrites the entire file, sector or media) - yes, even WORM media (Write Once, Read Many).
With all of the legislation going on about retention of documentation, the ability to ‘shred’ documentation at, for instance, 7 years, 1 day is quickly becoming a preference of legal departments for some industries.
Additionally, I’m reasonably sure there is no legislation in place for the retention of private email - especially since he is not an elected official.
Since older data also resides on archive and backup media in addition to the servers, here is an example of a product that handles that scenario - and yes, it does work. It works real well.
A link to an example of a product that ‘shreds’ data on
WORM media (which is discs that are “guaranteed” to be media that can never be overwritten. WORM media is often used for retention and/or archived data. (No, I do not work for that company).
http://www.plasmon.com/articles/articles.php?subaction=showfull&id=1147816461&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&;
If you work in an industry that deals with sensitive data that is not, by law, data that must be retained, or if you must comply with legislation that enforces the retention of data, then you may want to consider products like this that provides a method of disposing of the data (all of it) when the retention period expires.
Are you SURE you really want to delete these items? :-)
Right up there with the Liberal mantra and my all time fave pop-up dialog box
Abort, Retry, Fail?
Abort, Retry, Fail?
Wow...those were the day I hated.
Glad to not see that anymore!!!!!!!!!!!
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