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To: freedomdefender; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; marron; DaveLoneRanger; metmom; Quix; T'wit; ...
"Science and religion both attempt to answer the same questions - the difference is that religion gets the answers wrong," the atheist campaigner asserted.

This is precisely the point where Dawkins goes off the rails: Science and religion do not treat of the same questions at all.

The only way such a statement could be true would be if the universe is what Dawkins says it is: pure materiality, somehow paradoxically ordered by pure chance that somehow manages to become "intelligent" (for some inexplicable reason) along the way of its evolution, such to produce the splendid variety of creature that we see in our world. All of which presupposes that the biological generations result from a "blind," that is to say unguided, purposeless process taking place in space and time. And that's all there is to it.

I do not see any basis in reason at all by which such a complex of expectation could possibly be organized, let alone justified.... Where is the basis in direct experience that could possibly justify it?

In short, Dawkins is deaf, dumb, and blind to the "spirit" that matter needs in order to form any kind of intelligence, or to be any kind of life.

That's putting the problem pretty crudely; but I'll leave it there for now, hoping anyone interested in this problem would write back....

Thanks so much for the post, freedomdefender!

58 posted on 04/12/2007 6:27:55 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[.. In short, Dawkins is deaf, dumb, and blind to the "spirit" that matter needs in order to form any kind of intelligence, or to be any kind of life. ..]

Exactely.. Thats why I say the TOE(of DNA) is a direct assault on the (Christian) Holy Spirit.. and the (Judeo) Spirit of God.. What is spirit/Spirit (materially)?... Who knows.. maybe spirit is not material at all.. and as mysterious as Dark Energy/material.. At least material in the sense of what this human body can sense or even concieve of..

There was a time when men didn't know what "air" was (not too long ago).. it was mysterious but could not be denied.. Could be the spirit is just so.. and that soon all will know what "spirit" is.. YES, even Dawkins..

70 posted on 04/12/2007 7:07:17 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: betty boop

Thanks for the ping.

Intelligence always happens by accident.....@#$%^&


71 posted on 04/12/2007 7:10:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: betty boop
This is precisely the point where Dawkins goes off the rails: Science and religion do not treat of the same questions at all....

In short, Dawkins is deaf, dumb, and blind to the "spirit" that matter needs in order to form any kind of intelligence, or to be any kind of life.

Precisely so. Thank you for your outstanding essay-post!
75 posted on 04/12/2007 11:24:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

Well said.

Thanks.


76 posted on 04/13/2007 4:29:54 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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