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US airliner 'nearly shot down' (Ooops)
News24 (South Africa) ^ | 11 April 2007 | News24

Posted on 04/11/2007 4:21:27 PM PDT by Cornpone

Tel Aviv - Israeli warplanes nearly shot down an American airliner carrying passengers from New York to Tel Aviv on Wednesday when the pilot failed to respond as the plane approached the Israeli coast, an airport authority official said.

Two Israeli F-15s and two F-16s fighter planes were scrambled to intercept a Boeing 777 operated by the US Continental Airlines as it prepared to enter Israeli airspace without responding to control tower demands to identify itself, the official added.

According to Israel's private Channel-10, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, defence minister Amir Peretz and General Gaby Ashkenazy, chief of staff, were warned that the air force was on the point of shooting down a civilian plane suspected of being in the hands of hijackers.

The Boeing pilot at the last minute realised the situation and the danger threatening his craft and established contact while still over the Mediterranean.

Escorted by the warplanes, the Boeing landed without further problems at Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion airport where an inquiry was opened.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; ussliberty
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To: vox humana
I have the feeling that a certain Continental Airlines pilot will soon be taking an early retirement.

Naw, just send him to radio school. "Ex-Captain, this is a microphone....."

21 posted on 04/11/2007 4:49:43 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: IronJack
Don’t most commercial planes have a transponder they can squawk to identify themselves?

Problem... is that a plane taken over by terrorists will still squawk "Friend".

22 posted on 04/11/2007 4:49:51 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Integrityrocks

Time for the pilots and everybody else to break out the cell phones and air phones (assuming phones would work like they did on 9/11 when so many people called from the hijacked planes).


23 posted on 04/11/2007 4:58:25 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cornpone

Earth to pilot, Earth to pilot!


24 posted on 04/11/2007 5:01:35 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Cornpone

Whatever happened to Guard channel, AKA Navy Common?


25 posted on 04/11/2007 5:01:44 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Grut
AKA Navy Common?

Ain't it the truth. NATO common, too.

26 posted on 04/11/2007 5:03:47 PM PDT by SIDENET (Now selling carbon offsets. Get some today!)
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To: AmericaUnited

To squak or not to squawk. I think it depends on the terrorists intentions. It would probably make more sense to turn the transponder off so the plane can’t be that easily tracked. Of course this would result in a much quicker decision time to shoot the aircraft down if it was not squawking. Just depends on which crazy islamic nut is driving.


27 posted on 04/11/2007 5:04:05 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: Cornpone

The poor guy probably dialed in the wrong freq. for approach. Result: no response to queries by plane or ground.

“I wonder why the radio is so quiet?”


28 posted on 04/11/2007 5:20:20 PM PDT by poindexter
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To: Mr. Mojo

remember it? if not, look it up....1967


29 posted on 04/11/2007 5:27:07 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Cecily; Integrityrocks

I doubt the cell phones would work over the Mediterranean. There’s no cell towers there.


30 posted on 04/11/2007 5:31:48 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Yeah, I know about the USS Liberty incident. I just wanted you to explain how a tragic mistake that happened 40 years ago during a shooting war is related to this Continential pilot not (initially) responding to control tower demands to identify itself. ....and no one getting hurt.


31 posted on 04/11/2007 5:39:40 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: stylecouncilor

‘Read about this earlier. Phew!


32 posted on 04/11/2007 5:42:57 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mr. Mojo
USS Liberty memorial website.
33 posted on 04/11/2007 6:00:05 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Hillary, Obama and Edwards are too afraid to debate on Fox News yet want to be CIC. Think about it.)
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To: newzjunkey

thank you


34 posted on 04/11/2007 6:06:44 PM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: Integrityrocks
I used to be a private pilot, and my small craft had a transponder aboard. When I flew into a controlled ARSA, the tower would call me, tell me to tune to a certain frequency, and squawk my transponder. I was never in the tower, but I'm told that caused my plane's "signature" to "blossom" on the radar screen. They already had my blip; they just didn't have the details.

What I was wondering was if the transponder could be set to respond to a "request for information" from the tower, so that the pilot did not have to squawk it manually. I realize that the squawk won't identify friend from foe, but it would give the tower information about the aircraft without requiring pilot cooperation. Done correctly, it could tell the tower much, much more -- including the status of onboard personnel. A certain code entered into the sender could indicate to the tower that the plane is in a silent "alarm" mode, for example.

I'm no aeronautical electronics wiz, but it seems to me that a microprocessor could be programmed to respond with some minimal datastream if prompted by a poll from the ground on a certain frequency.

35 posted on 04/11/2007 6:16:33 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Mr. Mojo

tragic mistake?????


36 posted on 04/11/2007 6:28:12 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Oh, I see you’re a conspiracy nutball. Carry on with your delusion.


37 posted on 04/11/2007 6:30:17 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Cecily
According to another story, the Israeli jets escorted the airliner away from Israel to the west until contact was reestablished. I doubt that they almost shot the plane down.

Agreed.
But obviously, it it much more dramatic to say "almost shot down" by those nasty joos!

What's with airline pilots these days? Their quality seems to have gone south a few notches, judging from recent news stories.

38 posted on 04/11/2007 6:31:02 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

actually I have a good memory.....if that is all you require to dismiss me as a “conspiracy nutball” I am very flattered.

The only “tragic mistake” in the USS Liberty matter was political.....not tactical or operational.


39 posted on 04/11/2007 6:45:37 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; Sabramerican; Alouette; SJackson; dennisw; Nachum; Yehuda; dighton; aculeus; ...
USS Liberty, anyone?

Looks like a thread hijacking in progress.

40 posted on 04/11/2007 6:54:06 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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