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Rudy Giuliani's Abortion Problems Continue as Spokesman Defends Him
LifeNews ^ | 9 April 2007 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/10/2007 3:30:08 PM PDT by Spiff

Rudy Giuliani's Abortion Problems Continue as Spokesman Defends Him

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
April 9, 2007

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Rudy Giuliani's problems with his position on abortion continued into this week after he told CNN last week that he supported taxpayer-funded abortions and then promptly backed away from the comments.

On Monday, Giuilani adviser Bill Simon wrote a letter to National Review Online, a prominent conservative magazine and tried to defend Giuliani's record.

He cited research from University of Alabama professor Michael New, who is one of the most highly regarded analysts of the effect of abortion laws on reducing the number of abortions.

Simon told NR that abortions in New York City under Giuilani declined at a rate greater than the national average at the time adding that "Abortions declined by 16.8 percent in New York City during the Giuliani administration."

However, the magazine's editors rebutted Simon saying that Professor New also wrote that “I cannot attribute this decline to any actual policy Giuliani implemented.”

They also pointed out that "New York City’s abortion rate had a long way to fall: Even after its decline, it remained much higher than the national average. Should Mayor Giuliani get credit for that fact as well?"

Simon tells NR that "Rudy Giuliani has repeatedly said that he will not seek to change current law as described in the Hyde Amendment" but the editors doubt the sincerity of the former mayor's views.

"That a Republican candidate for president promises not to push for federal funding of elective abortion is far from the bare minimum he could do. Will he promise a veto if the Democratic Congress sends such legislation his way?" they wrote in response.

Simon also defended Giuliani on judges saying that "Giuliani would appoint strict-constructionist judges who will follow in the philosophical footsteps of Justices Thomas, Alito, and Scalia, and Chief Justice Roberts."

However, NR pointed to the Wednesday CNN interview during which Giuliani said a conservative judge could come to the conclusion that Roe v. Wade was a long enough precedent that it couldn't be overturned.

"Giuliani has (gratuitously) noted that, in his view, keeping Roe on the books is perfectly compatible with strict constructionism," the NR editors said in response.

Simon concluded that he is pro-life and he and Giuliani may not agree on the issue of abortion entirely but that the ex-mayor respects his position.

NR countered that Giuliani has misrepresented the views of the pro-life community by accusing it of wanting to put women in jail who have had abortions.

"Does Simon’s pro-life commitment amount to a desire to put pregnant women in jail? If not, perhaps he should advise the mayor to stop representing that policy as the pro-life position," they said.

"On abortion, Giuliani and his campaign need to engage in less spin and more thinking," they concluded.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; billsimon; giuliani; rino; rinorudy; rudyonabortion; stoprudy2008
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1 posted on 04/10/2007 3:30:11 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: FreeInWV; Reagan Man; Fierce Allegiance; EternalVigilance; B Knotts; jmc813; Kimberly GG; Sun; ...
((((STOP RUDY 2008 PING))))

2 posted on 04/10/2007 3:31:34 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

Who was that kook last night who actually said that by federally funding abortions, the number of abortions would be reduced because only the poor have to have abortions?


3 posted on 04/10/2007 3:32:36 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: Spiff
...he told CNN last week that he supported taxpayer-funded abortions and then promptly backed away from the comments.

So, what are the odds that he does the exact same thing (goes back on his word) with what he said about selecting judges.

This man has demonstrated to me beyond a question that he can not be trusted to keep his word.

4 posted on 04/10/2007 3:35:00 PM PDT by airborne (Freedom is worth fighting for !! And I'm in a fighting mood !! HUNTER 2008 !)
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To: Spiff

“I cannot attribute this decline to any actual policy Giuliani implemented.”
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!


5 posted on 04/10/2007 3:35:13 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Spiff

The Rudy bots just don’t seem to understand that this man is damaged goods beyond the limit of rational people to accept in the general election.


6 posted on 04/10/2007 3:35:53 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Spiff

Even many of Giuliani’s strongest supporters have qualms about his view on abortion.


7 posted on 04/10/2007 3:36:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: dynachrome

But rudy always mentions it like it was something he did.


8 posted on 04/10/2007 3:36:57 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Spiff

It’s clear that Rudy doesn’t think he needs real conservatives to get elected. That’s great pal— we don’t need you either with your ultra liberal ways. Good luck in the primaries (not).


9 posted on 04/10/2007 3:36:59 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: dynachrome
“I cannot attribute this decline to any actual policy Giuliani implemented.”

NARAL will be thrilled their boy did nothing to cut into franchise profits.



LOL

10 posted on 04/10/2007 3:37:36 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Even many of Giuliani’s strongest supporters have qualms about his view on abortion.

If those qualms someday blossom into principles, perhaps they'll vote for a conservative.

11 posted on 04/10/2007 3:38:47 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: flashbunny

> But rudy always mentions it like it was something he did.

Naturally. Taking credit for something you didn’t do is yet another piece of evidence that he’s completely morally bankrupt. (as if you needed another piece after his philandering and public divorce, flouncing around in a dress, and being to the left of Hitlery on pretty much every social issue)


12 posted on 04/10/2007 3:39:42 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Spiff

These politicians think that they can impose their ideology and moral will on the people....and we just have to accept it.

Think again!


13 posted on 04/10/2007 3:42:14 PM PDT by parthian shot (I can't stand much more of this!!)
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To: airborne
"So, what are the odds that he does the exact same thing (goes back on his word) with what he said about selecting judges."

I don't think he'll go back on his word on judges. It's just that the problem is he thinks he's a strict constructionist, and his judges would be just like him.


14 posted on 04/10/2007 3:45:30 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Spiff
Either you support the right to life for the unborn human, or you support abortion rights and abortion on demand.

Can't have it both ways. Rudy has been a life long pro-abortion liberal.

15 posted on 04/10/2007 3:45:50 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Spiff
Rudy Giuliani Supports Partial Birth Abortion
Don't Support Rudy Giuliani!

[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm?
Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position....
ABC News February 6, 2000


TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
- CNN December 2, 1999


BLITZER: If you were in the Senate and [President Clinton] vetoed, once again, the [ban on the] so-called partial-birth abortion procedure, you would vote against sustaining that against the -- in favor of the veto in other words, you would support the president on that.
GIULIANI: Yes. I said then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it.
BLITZER: All right. So the bottom line is that on a lot of these very sensitive issues whether on guns, abortion, patients' bill of rights, taxes, you are more in line with the president and by association, with Mrs. Clinton, than you are against them.
- CNN February 6, 2000

MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that?

MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York...

MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000]

MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else....

MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement?

MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views
- NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000


***Note: the version of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban that Giuliani opposed in 2000, that he said he supported Bill Clinton in vetoing the Republican-controlled Congress's legislation, contained the exception for the life of the mother that Rudy is now trying to pretend is a prerequisite for his support of it.

16 posted on 04/10/2007 3:48:43 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
Any candidate for President who thinks that guns (not people) cause 'human suffering and death' and files their own lawsuit against gun manufacturers, but also states that murdering a child that is unborn isn't as serious as murdering a child already born has a serious problem with their own moral clarity and has NO business in the White House. Rudy needs to withdraw from the race, and yesterday would not have been too soon.

"And a great wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard from every RudyBot across the land"
17 posted on 04/10/2007 3:50:50 PM PDT by mkjessup ('President Rudy!!! = an aborted fetus in every pot, and no guns in any garage!!!')
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To: Spiff
Spiff my FRiend, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

Of course the Rudy Zombies think you're rather ungentlemanly and a scoundrel, but they all have to share the RudyCollectiveBrain anyway, so it doesn't matter if they like you or not. ;)
18 posted on 04/10/2007 3:53:09 PM PDT by mkjessup ('President Rudy!!! = an aborted fetus in every pot, and no guns in any garage!!!')
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To: Spiff
In a gesture to be kind and nice to Rudy. He is one of the finest liberals around.

He beats Hillary on most social issues.

If we were setting out to nominate a candidate with a great stand as a liberal...he would get my vote.

You just have to love Americas most liberal Republican.

19 posted on 04/10/2007 4:01:14 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: VictoryGal
It’s clear that Rudy doesn’t think he needs real conservatives to get elected. That’s great pal— we don’t need you either with your ultra liberal ways. Good luck in the primaries (not).

Let me say this: I do not want Giuliani to win the nomination for the Republican candidate for President. Right now I am hoping that Fred Thompson runs, and wins.

That being said, I do respect Giuliani, and I am grateful he thinks enough like me to be a Republican rather than a Democrat. I certain cannot see any indication that he thinks that he doesn't need conservative Republicans (that would be foolish beyond degree), but I think it is also foolish to say that we don't need him. Rudy is too liberal for me, but he is not an "ultra liberal."

If he should win the nomination, or be asked to run as VP, he will have my vote in the general election. No third party candidate has a chance to win, and we must defeat whomever the Democrats put forth!

20 posted on 04/10/2007 4:02:13 PM PDT by HoustonTech
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