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Indonesia evinces interest in Indo-Russian supersonic cruise missile
Press Trust of India(PTI) ^ | APR 10,2007

Posted on 04/10/2007 10:20:15 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Indonesia evinces interest in Brahmos missile

NEW DELHI, APR 10 (PTI)

After Malaysia, another ASEAN nation, Indonesia, has evinced keen interest in acquiring Brahmos supersonic cruise missile, especially its ship-to-land versions.

A visit to the Brahmos complex here was the highlight of a tour by Indonesian Navy chief Admiral Siamet Soebijanto.

Indonesia has taken keen interest in the cruise missile developed by India and Russia.

On a three-day visit here, the Indonesian Naval chief had a meeting with the Defence Minister A K Antony after talks with his Indian counterpart Admiral Sureesh Mehta.

Soebijanto was also given a detailed briefing on the security secnario in India and threat perceptions specially in its sprawling Island territories. He also met the Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutt.

India and Indonesian Navies have been maintaining very close collobration over the past few years and have participated in bilateral as well as multilateral exercises in Andaman seas, Malacca Straits as well in waters off the Indian coast.

After his meeting with the top defence brass here, the Indonesian Naval Chief is visiting Western Naval Command at Mumbai, where he is likely to be shown top-of-the-shelf warships.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; brahmos; brahmosmissile; china; cruisemissile; india; indonesia; mentaldiarrhoea; missile; peabraininfested; russia
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To: sukhoi-30mki

By your logic every missile in the fleet is some form of cruise missile.

This is not a cruise missile.

As usual [with all things Russian] more hype than reality.

I’m not saying it poses no threat but it is not in the conventional sense a cruise missile.


21 posted on 04/10/2007 11:21:38 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: CarrotAndStick

So an Aim-9 is a cruise missile?


22 posted on 04/10/2007 11:22:19 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

Why not read through this

http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/cm/index.html


23 posted on 04/10/2007 11:23:24 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: VaBthang4

Err-you have atlast come to the crux of the issue.Ask yourself What powers the AIM-9 or the AIM-120 or the Maverick???& what powers the Harpoon,the Tomahawk & the Brahmos??The common factor gives you the definition.


24 posted on 04/10/2007 11:26:32 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"“an unmanned self-propelled guided vehicle that sustains flight through aerodynamic lift for most of its flight path and whose primary mission is to place an ordnance or special payload on a target.”"

So now, the Predator is a cruise missile by FAS definition.

~Grin~

Anyway, like I was saying, this is simply a missile.

25 posted on 04/10/2007 11:26:38 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

Does the Predator crash into it’s target??

Scoring quiet a few owngoals here, aren’t you!!


26 posted on 04/10/2007 11:28:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Oi...

so now moving the goalposts a little further.

The definition is not one of flight characteristics but of propulsion?


27 posted on 04/10/2007 11:29:09 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

You are probably the only one around here who thinks about cruise missiles this way.Good luck with that.


28 posted on 04/10/2007 11:29:43 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Your link:

"“an unmanned self-propelled guided vehicle that sustains flight through aerodynamic lift for most of its flight path and whose primary mission is to place an ordnance or special payload on a target.” "

Does that not describe a Predator UAV?

29 posted on 04/10/2007 11:30:40 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

Cruise Missile: A missile that is an unmanned, self-propelled weapon-delivery vehicle that sustains flight through the use of aerodynamic lift over most of its flight path.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/start1/glossary.htm


30 posted on 04/10/2007 11:30:49 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: VaBthang4

Kindly define the difference between how a rocket engine works & how jet engine works & see if there are a few differences?Thank you.


31 posted on 04/10/2007 11:31:52 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Luck?

Luck is a term best used when considering the capabilities of Russian Weapon Systems.

~grin~


32 posted on 04/10/2007 11:32:12 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: CarrotAndStick

Okay then....to that definition I will yield.

However, it is a FAS definition that contradicts another FAS definition for the same thing.


33 posted on 04/10/2007 11:34:06 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

How so?


34 posted on 04/10/2007 11:35:34 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Wait a minute!

"A missile that is an unmanned, self-propelled weapon-delivery vehicle that sustains flight through the use of aerodynamic lift over most of its flight path."

That describes every friggin air to air missile in the inventory. Haha...

35 posted on 04/10/2007 11:37:29 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: CarrotAndStick

The FAS definition you provided versus the FAS definition that Sukhoi provided.


36 posted on 04/10/2007 11:38:14 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Strategerist
“We have our own sea-skimming supersonic drone now, the GQM-163 Coyote.”

Yes, but as you pointed out the Coyote is merely a target drone without a warhead.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-163.html

37 posted on 04/10/2007 11:39:11 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton; Strategerist
"the Coyote is merely a target drone"

???

Why would we have a sea skimming, supersonic drone?

What possible use could we have for that?

~Grin~

38 posted on 04/10/2007 11:42:00 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4
"...aerodynamic lift over most of its flight path."

So, ballistic missiles use aerodynamic lift?

Aerodynamic lift is for horizontal flight.


39 posted on 04/10/2007 11:43:04 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: VaBthang4
Why would we have a sea skimming, supersonic drone?

Sea-skimming missiles/drones are harder to detect on radar. Does this wipe that grin off?

40 posted on 04/10/2007 11:48:25 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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