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Collapse of Primary System Leads to Talk of Brokered Conventions
Compiled ^ | April 10, 08 | Dangus

Posted on 04/10/2007 9:42:12 AM PDT by dangus

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1 posted on 04/10/2007 9:42:14 AM PDT by dangus
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Well, a brokered convention did get us Abraham Lincoln.


2 posted on 04/10/2007 9:43:58 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Broad-minded is just another way of saying a fellow is too lazy to form an opinion." Will Rogers)
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... and if the super-delegates hadn’t been nixin’ the idea, we may have gotten Reagan four years earlier.


3 posted on 04/10/2007 9:45:46 AM PDT by dangus
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“Brokered convention” - Just imagine the broker’s fees and commissions...


4 posted on 04/10/2007 9:45:49 AM PDT by GSlob
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Gee, I don’t know it sounds like fun. Course the convention system was in place for a hundred and fifty years and the nation survived so pardon me if I don’t panic.


5 posted on 04/10/2007 9:47:08 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: RexBeach
Well, a brokered convention did get us Abraham Lincoln.

And a Civil War for good measure.

6 posted on 04/10/2007 9:48:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Well, prior to the primary system, we didn’t have Campaign Finance Deform, the eight-month-gap, etc.


7 posted on 04/10/2007 9:50:22 AM PDT by dangus
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Worse still, a brokered convention could be far more devestating that in the past. With the primaries so early, and the conventions so late, an insufferable eight months of uncertainty would await.

It would really serve us right. We are spending so much time on 2008 this early that the irony of not knowing who the candidates are until August 2008 would be just perfect.

8 posted on 04/10/2007 9:52:46 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Giuliani: A strict constructionist judge can come to either conclusion about Roe against Wade.)
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The Civil War resulted from the actions of the Slavers not the Republican Convention.


9 posted on 04/10/2007 9:54:14 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: dangus

Al Gore could make a killing selling “DNC Collapse” off-sets.


10 posted on 04/10/2007 9:55:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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OK, I’ll admit it... I’d LOVE to see a Democratic brokered convention. Especially when Obama loses because the racist Dems wouldn’t dare run a black man. Can you picture it if Obama loses after getting a field-leading 35% of the elected delegates?


11 posted on 04/10/2007 9:56:14 AM PDT by dangus
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CFR is the biggest Nothing Burger in the history of Nothing Burgers. It has had NO significant impact on political campaigns being limited to controlling political parties and Sneak Attack groups. Have you even read the law. Only idiots would be constrained by it as 04 and 06 showed.

Our election history is VERY varied in how the process operated and has changed numerous times in the past.


12 posted on 04/10/2007 9:57:39 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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CFR requires massive organization, and splitting of money. So far, it only hurts populism in smaller elections. But it could be deadly in a brokered convention.


13 posted on 04/10/2007 10:01:22 AM PDT by dangus
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Can you picture it if Obama loses after getting a field-leading 35% of the elected delegates?

If that happened Democrats might find themselves about 10 million votes short.

14 posted on 04/10/2007 10:05:23 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Giuliani: A strict constructionist judge can come to either conclusion about Roe against Wade.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

... But I do agree that, in general, CFR is overstated. It’s the constitutional issues, rather than the political effect, that has everyone in a tizzy: not that the government’s intrusion is so huge, but that it has absolutely no right to intrude. Anyway, as interpreted by Bush, it has had minimal harm... but many fear what another adminsitration’s broader interpretations could mean.


15 posted on 04/10/2007 10:11:39 AM PDT by dangus
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Republicans might want to be positioned to take advantage of that. It could set the stage for a major demographic shift.

I've never understood why blacks vote Democrat. One of these days, they will tune into the Republican message (tax cuts, education vouchers, etc.) and they will like what they hear.

16 posted on 04/10/2007 10:13:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: RexBeach
Well, a brokered convention did get us Abraham Lincoln.

A split country, hundreds of thousands of Americans killed, a dead president. That really turned out well, didn't it.

And before anyone starts yelling about slavery, how much better off were the Blacks in 1880 as sharecroppers than they were in 1860 as slaves.

17 posted on 04/10/2007 10:57:49 AM PDT by PAR35
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I can see why liberal ‘rats are pushing for early primaries... creating a scenario for a more left candidate, or at least a candidate mouthing more leftist claptrap. But, why do the ‘pubs follow suit? Seems to me to counterbalance the ‘rats push for early primaries, pubs should push for late primaries, or at least leave them as they are. Other than primary costs, is there a reason to have ‘Rat and ‘Pub primaries simultaneously? In my mind, having later ‘pub primaries along with early ‘rat primaries would result in a ‘pub advantage in the general election.


18 posted on 04/10/2007 10:58:12 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: dangus

Brokered conventions get us better candidates.


19 posted on 04/10/2007 11:00:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: PAR35
A split country? The Union was saved. We probably would have had two countries if the Civil War had never happened. All things considered, I am glad that Lincoln was our President.
20 posted on 04/10/2007 11:04:06 AM PDT by kabar
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