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To: BagCamAddict

We bred her. We were trying for cock-a-tzu’s. We have already taken her to 2 vets, 2 because the first wouldn’t X-ray her. I live in the deep deep country and we watch her but my cousin let her out accidentally about a week after we bred her and we were trying to cover all possibilities.

btw, the doctor said it was a false pregnancy. We may try again next time. Normally dogs don’t walk the miles it takes to get to my house. My dog roams free because really theres just nowhere for her to go.

My dog gets the best care we can give and ever since this food scare she has had 2 strip of bacon and 2 eggs every morning and a steak at night. basically she’s following the atkins diet like I am. haha.


87 posted on 04/10/2007 6:57:49 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: Ainast; Arizona Carolyn

May I ask why you are trying to breed a mixed breed dog? Do you know anything about genetics? You don’t get a “Cock-a-tzu.” It doesn’t work like that. You get a mixed breed dog. Nothing more. These so-called designer breeds (Labradoodles, Puggles, etc.) are a marketing scam to get a ridiculously high price for a plain-old mixed breed dog.

For example, people who try to breed Labradoodles (Labrador x Poodle) think they will get characteristics A,B,C from the Lab and characteristics D,E,F from the Poodle... every time. But genetics don’t work that way. In very very simple terms:

Puppy #1 may get:
A,B,C from the Lab, and D,E,F from the Poodle

Puppy #2 may get:
B,D,F from the Lab, and A,C,E from the Poodle

Puppy #3 may get:
A,D,E,F from the Lab, and B,C from the Poodle

Etc.

Contrary to popular (ignorant) belief, cross-breeds are a crap shoot and they do NOT produce the happy mixture of HALF Cocker Spaniel and HALF Shitzhu, let alone the specific half that you want from each parent.

The specific breeds that exist today took hundreds of years to refine, through hundreds of generations of breedings to establish their specific breed characteristics. There is no such thing as a “Cock-a-tzu” as a breed, and your results will be nothing more than a litter of mixed breed puppies. They’ll be cute, of course, because all puppies are cute. But Puppy A may be entirely opposite of Puppy B.

You might as well go to the nearest shelter and pick up a litter of random mixed breed puppies. They will have the same degree of consistency as your intended litter.

(Disclaimer for any geneticists reading this: Obviously I’ve left out a lot of details here, including dominant/recessive genes, etc.; I’m just giving a Readers Digest version.)


98 posted on 04/10/2007 8:36:05 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: Ainast; BagCamAddict
WHAT!!!!!! I'm sorry but you really, really need to rethink everything about your rearing. First let me say I have three show quality cocker females. One spayed two not and we do not have accidental pregnancies at my house... nor would I ever consider breeding one of my girls with anything but a show quality male cocker -- ever....

There is only one reason to breed any dogs -- to better the breed, which includes for show...

Cockers came to have a bad reputation because of people doing BYBing and not paying attention to size, disposition, coat, and so much more -- the last thing they need is to be bred with anything of another breed. BagCam is right about that... a mix is a mix is a mutt....

What really upsets me about this is these are the very puppies that will end up in a shelter somewhere, vaccinated up the ying-yang and in poor health to be either euthanized or someone who does rescue will try and find a good home... check petfinders sometime, you'll see what I mean.

I hate to be cruel, but someone has to be blunt here... and BTW bacon and eggs does not make a balanced diet for any dog... I don't trust and wouldn't feed the cheap stuff, but I also would not feed bacon and eggs to my dogs, they get a nice, healthy, raw diet.

Please, if your dog is not pregnant and doesn't deliver, please do not breed her in this manner... keep her as a beloved pet, which is all she should be to you -- or any of us who do not spend the time and money to show and to learn what all is involved in breeding good quality dogs.

99 posted on 04/10/2007 8:52:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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