Posted on 04/09/2007 8:44:15 AM PDT by jveritas
It was a shock for many of us to see the incredible impotence and weakness of the British during the latest hostage crisis when the Iranian terrorist regime illegally captured 15 British sailors for almost two weeks.
The terrorist mullahs in Tehran declared war against the British by taking their sailors and marines hostages but the British government ignored this and did not even want to call the hostages hostages for fear of escalating the situation. From the vast and rich vocabulary of the English language, the British officials came up with the meekest of words to condemn Iran act of war. The British prime minister and his foreign affairs minister really scared Ahmadinajad and Khamenei with such powerful and frightening words like Inappropriate, Wrong, and Uncalled for to describe Iran aggression against them. Well we are all glad that British kept their cool even in the use of language (extreme sarcasm). So impotent and pathetic were the British that they went to UN to get a statement to condemn Iran actions in the strongest term but they did not even get this from the most corrupted global organization.
During the few weeks Falkland islands war between Britain and Argentina, the British lost 255 troops to take back the islands from the Argentine aggressors, a loss that it is more than they lost in four years during the Iraq war, but this was then during Marguerite Tatcher time and this is now during Tony Blair time. Now it is the time of Great Britain Capitulation for a 7th century Islamic terrorist regime. The current British Navy rules of engagement in the Persian Gulf, the most hostile maritime region in the world, can be summarized as follow: Do not fire at Iran navy even if Iran attacks our Navy because we are not officially at war with Iran. May be the terrorist mullahs in Tehran can order the destruction of the whole British navy in the Gulf and get away with it as long as they do not officially declare war on Britain because it seems from her latest that Britain will not declare war unless Khamenei and Ahmadinajad officially and clearly say the following We are at War with Great Britain.
Even more shameless and embarrassing acts have been those performed by the so called 15 British Marines who were taken hostages. Many of us want to sympathize with their ordeal just from human point of view but those folks have dishonored and disgraced their military uniform and status by being so friendly and undignified when dealing with their terrorist captors, appearing with Ahmadinajad and giving praise to him as if he was the incarnation of Winston Churchill. The shameful 15 are now selling their stories to the media, they were not only cowards but now they are profiteering from their cowardliness.
The more unfortunate part in all of this is that this is not just a weak and cowardly behavior by the British government but it seems it is more like the decease of the French Surrender has also inflicted the British people as well as the whole of Europe. It was in July/7/2005 that the British people made it clear that they were not willing to fight islamic terrorism. The terrorist attacks in London on that day were an act of war by the global islamic terror movement against Britain, but the British people and government refused to consider it as such because it will entail fighting and providing more sacrifice to win this historic struggle. The British people and government had a shockingly cold reaction to those terrible attacks. They have treated the act of war on 7/7/2005 as just a security incident in the Tube.
There is only one cnation left on this planet to defend the world from islamic terrorism and that this the United States of America. I think President Bush may have realized by now that when the time will come to forcefully deal with the ultimate regime of terror, the islamic terrorist regime in Tehran, we are going to do it alone, we have no real allies left who are willing to fight for their freedom and their way of life, it is up to the USA to preserve it for us and the rest of the world.
Notre Dame
“It was in July/7/2005 that the British people made it clear that they were not willing to fight islamic terrorism. The terrorist attacks in London on that day were an act of war by the global islamic terror movement against Britain, but the British people and government refused to consider it as such because it will entail fighting and providing more sacrifice to win this historic struggle. The British people and government had a shockingly cold reaction to those terrible attacks. They have treated the act of war on 7/7/2005 as just a security incident in the Tube.”
As a UK citizen I am DISGUSTED by this comment and the propagation of this rampant propaganda. Its an insult to the 50 who died, the thousand who were wounded and the 60 million people who have had to come to terms with it. We aren’t new to this terrorism game. We people of the british isles have been forged in the terrorist fires decades ago. We are strong. resolute. Not quick to anger, yet slow to forgive. My own home town was bombed by the IRA TWICE, not forgetting Manchester, Birmingham and London. Yet we did not surrender to their demands. I had friends DIRECTLY affected by the 7/7 bombs. YET NONE of us are bowed, we are just a little more bloody!
It was in July/7/2005 that the British people made it clear that they were not willing to fight islamic terrorism. The terrorist attacks in London on that day were an act of war by the global islamic terror movement against Britain, but the British people and government refused to consider it as such because it will entail fighting and providing more sacrifice to win this historic struggle. The British people and government had a shockingly cold reaction to those terrible attacks. They have treated the act of war on 7/7/2005 as just a security incident in the Tube.
You must the forgive the polemical nature of my response to your thread and its contents, but, the very nature of the comments are quite simply beyond the pale. I have read, heard, seen alot of virulently anti-UK feeling on these pages, yet nothing with quite the same vehemence. It is a truely shocking thing to claim that the UK people have treated the ‘7/7 bombings’ (look, I’ve even used the media terminology for it: hardly indicative of it being brushed off as an ‘incident’) with indifference.
Also given that you are calling the bombings an act of war, quite who should we now be at war with? The bombers were from Leeds, so should we flatten the city? The bombers were all from the UK, so should we go to war with ourselves?
“Britain capitulated to islamic terrorists, pure and simple.”
Have you been somewhere else in the Solar System these past five years? Or maybe even the dark side of the moon? Because I do believe that it was the SPANISH government that capitulated to the ‘islamic terrorists’ when the terrible Madrid bombings forced a new government and the nations troops out of Iraq. I guess you might be a little soft on European geography, but come on, mistaking the UK for Spain is weak man! One is sunny, with beautiful beaches, women and climate, and the other is next to Portugal.
The 7/7/05 terrorist attacks is called by you and your media and your people the "7/7 bombings" right there I can tell that you do not believe that you are fighting global jihadist terrorists, you cannot even bring yourself to call it terrorist attacks. I have seen your people reaction to the terrorist attacks in July 2007, it was cold, empty of any emotions, or a will to fight on and destroy world wide islamic terrorism. I stand by what I said that the British people treated the act of war against them as a securiy incident in the Tube and the train stations.
Moreover the shameful, disgraceful, and cowardly actions by the British government and the British Navy toward the act of war declared by the Iranian terrorist regime against Britain is shoking beyond belief. You have capitulated to the terrorist mullahs, there is no other way to explain it.
Anyway welcome to Free Republic.
‘bombings’ is merely the term of reference used when a terrorist group attacks soft targets in the UK. the IRA attacks were ‘bombings’ (Manchester, Warrington, London Pub bombings etc.), yet we all knew that we were in a fight with a proto-fascist/communist entity that really did want our destruction. Yet we won.
for British people to believe that there is no War on Terror (man do i hate that line, its grammatically poor), they would have had not to watching the TV and news reports of the shoe bomber (again, bomber, but we know he was a terrorist. these are semantic argument over interpretations of words...), 9/11, Bali ‘Bombings’ (again, bombings, but we know that they were caused by the Jammah Islamiah (bad spelling i know) terrorist group, London bombings in 05, and the attempted attacks in london just after. Just looking at the reactions of the people, and reading the testimony of their accounts dispels any belief that the UK had closed its eyes to the threat. Madrid train bombings (again, bombings, yet we know the act was inspired and performed by Al Qaeda orientated terrorist cells).
I stand by my indignation for the comments on this thread, and my explanations regarding your points. Oh, and many thanks for the welcome to FR.
‘have been’ watching.......!!!!!
Very good.
One is a Marine and one is NOT a Marine.
Why do Americans think all 15 were Marines?....
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