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Sanctuary Laws and Giuliani
The American Perspective ^ | 3/15/2007 12:08:05 AM | Joel Himelfarb

Posted on 04/07/2007 8:03:53 PM PDT by ckilmer

Giuliani did not address one issue that has the potential to seriously damage his efforts to win conservative support: his prior defense of "sanctuary" laws, which act as a shield for illegal immigrants. These laws, which are in effect in locations such as New York, Los Angeles, San Diego, Houston, Miami and Austin and Montgomery County, Md., bar police from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; electionpresident; giuliani; gulianai; immigrantlist; rudy; rudyonimmigration; sanctuarycity; sanctuarylaws; stoprudy2008

1 posted on 04/07/2007 8:03:54 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Of course he won’t address it, because he has nowhere to hide. He could always tell us again that if we don’t like his positions, then don’t vote for him. He will eventually find that millions of potential voters have abandoned him.


2 posted on 04/07/2007 8:06:22 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: ckilmer

I bet Rudy can explain almost all of that.


3 posted on 04/07/2007 8:06:24 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.(Request shot splash))
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To: ckilmer
He fought the feds to maintain NY as a "sanctuary city" all the way to the supreme court as lost. Even then he still failed to follow federal law WRT reporting illegal aliens to the feds.

So much for the "Law and order" angle.

And here's one for the 'fiscal conservative' claim as well:


4 posted on 04/07/2007 8:18:23 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: ckilmer

I’m sure that Rudy would explain it in the same way he explains his suddnely all-over-the-map statements on abortion since he’s been running for President.

It’s a matter of the separation between state and Federal powers. Immigration, I’m sure he would say, is a Federal power and cities and states can’t be involved in it.

He’d be wrong, but that is what he’d probably say.


5 posted on 04/07/2007 8:21:23 PM PDT by TBP
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To: flashbunny

This alone is enough to impeach him before he gets elected : )


6 posted on 04/07/2007 8:22:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: TBP

Yeah, Rudy says a lot of things. Most of it is pure B.S.


7 posted on 04/07/2007 8:23:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: flashbunny

He fought the feds to maintain NY as a “sanctuary city” all the way to the supreme court as lost. Even then he still failed to follow federal law WRT reporting illegal aliens to the feds.


The illegal Mexicans are happy with the idea of Rudy...America, the land of milk and honey for anyone but its REAL citizens that have to pay for it all.


8 posted on 04/07/2007 8:27:34 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: ckilmer

It gets better and better with this guy. Pro gay. Anti-gun. Not just pro-abortion but pro publicly funded abortion. A personal life that makes Bill Clinton look like a good husband. Pro illegal. I wonder if some of the Rudy bots on here are on his campaign? I just don’t see how a single real conservative could support that cross-dressing RINO.


9 posted on 04/07/2007 8:40:56 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: TBP

“I’m sure that Rudy would explain it in the same way he explains his suddnely all-over-the-map statements on abortion since he’s been running for President.”

Rudy: I’m against illegal border crossings, I think everything should be done to discourage it...but, like abortion, we’ve found a right that the illegal aliens are entitled to here in the USA, and as long as they have that constitutional right I’ll fight to guarantee it. Further, if they are deprived of those rights due to lack of funds, I support public funding for their full constitutional enjoyment.


10 posted on 04/07/2007 8:44:23 PM PDT by Hornet19 (Conservative from birth, Republican no more.)
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To: ckilmer

Haven’t heard anyone asking none of these “Candidates” about illegals and what there policy is.


11 posted on 04/07/2007 9:36:09 PM PDT by ustanker (Secure the border!)
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To: ustanker; Kevmo; AuntB; WalterSkinner; Paperdoll; Spiff

You might be interested in Duncan Hunter then. He’s an avid supporter of a border fence (he’s proactive about it too) and bringing down illegal immigration. Check my profile.


12 posted on 04/07/2007 10:11:11 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008. Audio, Video, and Quotes in my profile.)
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To: ckilmer

NYC was a santuary city for all nationalities. And I know Mexicans are the first thing that comes to mind. But think about it, law enforecement was not allowed to ask about anyone’s right to be there. Is that the rational thought process for a city that had ALREADY BEEN ATTACKED BY TERRORISTS? The Rudy people can talk all they want about Rudy being the ONLY one to fight the terrorists. 9/11 WAS NOT THE FIRST ATTACK ON NYC!


13 posted on 04/07/2007 10:22:44 PM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: SmoothTalker
I wonder if some of the Rudy bots on here are on his campaign?

You mean campaign staff and I bet there are...

14 posted on 04/07/2007 10:51:23 PM PDT by Doofer
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To: Doofer

Citizens are NOT barred from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities.


15 posted on 04/07/2007 10:57:56 PM PDT by wodinoneeye
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To: ckilmer

A few more vehicle accident stories to keep an eye on. It seems more often than not nowadays that these hit and runs involve illegal alien drivers! All of these were from April 6 and April 7.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/11565512/detail.html?rss=la&psp=news

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/11565512/detail.html?rss=la&psp=news

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/11565932/detail.html?rss=la&psp=news

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/11549345/detail.html?subid=10101581


16 posted on 04/08/2007 12:37:05 AM PDT by goalseven
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To: ckilmer

Did you see the Fox News program that Paul Gigot hosts? The panel referred to Rudy Giuliani as an amateur in politics, and think his “New York” style will not sell in the rest of the U.S.


17 posted on 04/08/2007 5:39:03 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: ckilmer; B4Ranch
Former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city's sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS.

No wonder he's so popular here.

18 posted on 04/08/2007 6:45:19 AM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: ckilmer
I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp


19 posted on 04/08/2007 7:23:06 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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