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Dinesh D'Souza's thesis is ahistorical - it fails to recognize that Islam has been at war with the West for 1400 years - long before the Cultural Left and Hollywood decadence arrived on the scene. Minorities are persecuted with brutality throughout the Muslim world. In particular, devout Christian nuns have singled out for mmurder and they are hardly apostles of Western leftist decadence. The truth is the Cultural Left and Islamofascism have an alliance because they both hate the Werst and the values it stands for. The Greeks were outnumbered by the Persians at Thermopylae because they were prepared to die as free men rather than live as slaves in thrall to the Great King Of Persia. Considering Islam intends to reduce free people in the West to powerless helots, we too face a fight against seemingly impossible odds. But against such a fanatical foe, those of us heirs to a proud and storied classical and Judeo-Christian civilization, like our ancestors, too will have to take a stand. My own answer is I would rather die a free man than live as a slave. What will your answer be to the Islamofascist challenge? Fight to the last man standing - or surrender? That is the question of our time.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 04/06/2007 10:13:44 PM PDT by goldstategop
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BUMP


2 posted on 04/06/2007 10:23:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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One thing for sure.

I know with whom Leonidas would side with today.

History is whispering to us even through the stylized artistic prism of this film.

I actually grow tired of the “based on a comic book”, “it’s just a movie” belittling of this film. Frank Miller knew exactly what the lesson was then, and what that message to us today is.

The message is only more obvious in this time of war with islamo-facists.


5 posted on 04/06/2007 10:27:53 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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I really liked the movie!

And I don’t really recall anything that would be considered “graphic sexuality”.

It was inspiring. And its been along time since I’v been inspired by a movie. And its been a VERY long time since I’v seen a movie that was based on strong men (physically, mentally and morally).

I thought it was awsome. And those actors were definitly ripped:)


6 posted on 04/06/2007 10:29:46 PM PDT by annelizly
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But D’Souza does have a point - even it it is an obliue one.

The “West” is an uneasy (or untested) alliance between traditional moralists and progressivist hedonists. This is an alliance that can’t stand for long. (You’re not going to see mom and pop America sending their sons off to war so we can have safe and plentiful gay bars, and other glories of liberal “democracy” in Iran.)

There is a seismic fault running through America that hasn’t seen sufficient stress to cause and earthquake.

Traditional America has two enemies in view - Islam and Leftist Westerners. D’Souza mistake in falling to discern the tripolar conflict.


7 posted on 04/06/2007 10:40:58 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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“And D’Souza wonders why most conservatives don’t take him seriously? “

I haven’t read this new thing by D’Souza but I know that he captures Reagan better than any other writer I know of.

I gave up on this nasty bitch Feder a long time ago, and as far as I know he has no where near the respect of D’Souza among conservatives.

D’Souza is a major writer in the conservative world including our flag ship publication “The National Review”.

Although I haven’t yet read this book by D’Souza this nasty, little diatribe by this small timer hasn’t come close to convincing me that after all these years D’ Souza all of a sudden became a dumb ass.


8 posted on 04/06/2007 10:44:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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And if America returned to the moral climate of the 1950s, would al Qaeda stop killing women and children? Would Hamas unbuckle its dynamite belts?

Feder is actually understating his case here. Sayyid Qutb, leading intellectual of the jihadist movement, based his hatred of American decadence on a college stay in Greeley, Colorado in 1947. After returning to Egypt, he commented on what he perceived to be the decadent, sex-filled atmosphere of a church basement sock hop.

I see no possibility that we will ever be able to communicate with a culture that thinks this way. To survive, we're going to have to destroy it. Let's hope we can find a way to do that without undue loss of life.

9 posted on 04/06/2007 10:44:39 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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Another parallel about to be drawn between 300, Persia and Islamic Jihad.

Eventually, the hedonists, boy-lovers, and self-styled philosophers of Athens (or our modern day Liberal/Leftist/Progressives) will eventually have to join the Spartans in the field or face destruction at the hands of the Persian(Islamic) Empire(Caliphate).
13 posted on 04/06/2007 11:22:58 PM PDT by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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D’Sousa talks sense and apparently Don Feder is upset about it.


16 posted on 04/07/2007 3:03:46 AM PDT by joeu (Chinese Translations and Interpreting)
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bookmark


17 posted on 04/07/2007 3:17:45 AM PDT by Toadman ((molon labe))
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(Thermopolye was a holding action) a DIP Mission like the Fulda. (Die In Place)

Actually it is my intention God Willing to fight to the Islamofacist’s last man.

However I agree with the criticisim of De Souza here. I will condemn both the Islamofacist as well as the godless secular faith of the Left. The enemy of my enemy can only be my friend when I am not his enemy also.

I am the enemy of both the Islamofacist and the Left. Hell they have both allied against Christians and other decent folks around the world so we better just accept it and work to take them both apart.

W


19 posted on 04/07/2007 3:43:33 AM PDT by WLR
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One correction. Leonidas didn’t say, “We will fight in the shade”. Dienekes, his second in command, is credited with the remark by Greek historians.


22 posted on 04/07/2007 5:14:28 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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"If we're in a war against Islam, that means America is up against one billion Muslims ... . How does any sane person on the Right expect to win this kind of war?"
If we're in a war against Islam then I'd speculate we win this kind of war one Islamic death at a time, until the number is zero...if we're really in a war against Islam that is.

Islam is damned sure at war with America, no "if's" about that!

25 posted on 04/07/2007 5:27:55 AM PDT by philman_36
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First, Dinesh D’Souza is a good and smart man. He is also a very, very nice man.

His position may be incorrect, but it is not entirely unreasonable to assert that what foreigners see of us every day (or decadent culture) is why they hate us. He may be wrong, but it is not worthy of attacking the man’s character over.

When I was in grad school, I knew some Indian guys pretty well. One of them almost couldn’t come because his family was afraid of the violence. They thought that people were shooting each other left and right over here. They also thought that everything was one big orgy. Where did they get that? From Hollywood.

So, of course Islam has been at war with us for 1500 years, or however long it is. But, there is nothing wrong with pointing out that the face of America that is so hated is a face that is constructed almost entirely by liberals, and that may play a big role in things.


28 posted on 04/07/2007 7:06:44 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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D'Souza argues:"If we're in a war against Islam, that means America is up against one billion Muslims ... . How does any sane person on the Right expect to win this kind of war?"

Because like most groups many Muslims are heretics,and hypocrites, and only belong because they were born into it. Fundamentalists know that, and it is why they kill so many other Muslims who are sitting on their hands or cooperating with Infidels, while jihad is being waged.

It is not the kind of religion you just walk away from like Christianity and Judaism. There is a penalty for that in an Islamic country.- tom

32 posted on 04/07/2007 7:43:14 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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Ther Persians in 300 arent Muslim though.


40 posted on 04/07/2007 7:11:42 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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