Posted on 04/05/2007 5:42:47 PM PDT by Utah Girl
Mitt Romney is riding high this week after his victory in "the first primary," which consists of raising cold, hard cash to compete: more than $20 million in the first quarter, $5 million more than his closest contender, Rudy "Lay off my wife!" Giuliani. John McCain came in a lackluster third with $12.5 million.
Romney's campaign benefited from two distinct donor networks, according to media accounts: Wall Street and Mormons. GOP front-runner Rudy, struggling with one of those weird media freak shows erupting around his wife, Judith (her alleged participation in future Cabinet meetings and former puppy killings), must be a little envious on both counts.
Why is it that all the Dem candidates are still married to their first spouse, while among the current crop of leading GOP contenders, the only guy with just one wife is the Mormon?
Truth is, I don't think this is just an accident. There's something about Mormons the rest of us ought to pay attention to: Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do much better than almost any other faith group at sustaining a marriage culture -- and they do this while participating fully and successfully in modern life. Utah is above the national average in both household income and the proportion of adults who are college graduates.
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No your not!
seven,
again, none of the verses you posted say angels become men. None. This is because the Scriptures do not teach this. If you are going to “interpret” any verse to mean what it does not say, that is your right. That doesn’t mean it actually says that...
...and in the same way that Tom Cruise has the right to be couch jumping crazy and believe he can “recover god-like abilities” through scientology auditing, you can believe that you will also become a god someday, IF you do all the right things. You have a right to believe that too. Doesn’t mean it is true... unless the Bible is totally false.
In the mean time, the oldest lie of Satan was recorded as telling Adam and Eve they would be as God, if only they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And so the story goes on.
best to you,
ampu
Did you every read the Book of Mormon with a humble heart and contrite spirit?
I think it is in the three pages of the photos seven linked to ... interesting pix.
rest,
In the scriptures, resurrected humans are not angels.
ampu
The “first estate” which that verse talks means what to you exactly?
Best to you too, we could go at this all night, but what’s the point.
Cheers?
Really resty? What rant is that?
Let me see if I get the assertion of Rams and you correctly. If I am angry at being deceived by my former religion it is because I thought I was married, and I was abused by my ex?
But it really has nothing whatsoever with the cons of Joseph Smith? It really has nothing at all to do with false promises, lies, unfulfilled expectations, working for exaltation at the expense of my family?
It has nothing to do with false prophecy, unconfirmed historical writings, polygamy, servitude, or finding salvation through Christ after many years of being led in the wrong direction?
It all boils down to the question, “when did you stop beating your wife?”
(resty) I know that last sentence went over your head, it was meant for Rams.
rest,
No. I have never read the Book of Mormon in its entirety. Nor do I ever plan to do so. Nor will I ever read other cultic literature, like the stuff the church of scientology puts out. Or Hare Krishna stuff.
Based on what others in your faith have said here about what they believe (how they can become a god of their own world, etc), and how they have infused Bible passages with meanings that are not there, I wouldn’t waste my time.
Nor will I take drugs so I can know more about them.
But I do read the Bible daily. I’m thankful for the salvation I came to know through it. And for Jesus Christ.
best,
ampu
Good-bye all,’
I am off to Bible Study. It is another of my “hobbies.”
Catcha later.....
Thank you, CC. You’ve finally gotten beyond the ad-hominem attacks to why you disagree with LDS doctrine. Now we can, perhaps, engage in a dialog.
No, the mere finding of a steel sword would not change my mind about Mormonism, a belief I rejected in my youth for other deeper reasons, but it would lend more credibility where it is currently lacking.
Also, if there really was an iron-working culture in the pre-columbian Americas, I would expect to find the evidence of the smelters (crucible shards, vitrified furnace refractory, slag and the like) those types of evidence last much longer that the steel it’s self and have been found in most other archaeological sites from cultures that had that technology.
By the way, I'm not looking for "signs" in the biblical sense. But I find it less than credible that so little evidence of some things described in the BOM have ever been found. Much of what is purported to be that evidence by Mormon apologists turns out to be other than that under greater scrutiny.
Personally, I find it important when voting for a president if the candidate belongs to a religion that could only, in my opinion, be believed in by the extremely gullible.
That's my opinion, but it is one shared by many others for many various reasons, some better than others, but in politics perception rules the day.
When you blast Joseph Smith as far a I am concern it like blasting Moses or Abraham etc it still trashing a servant of the Lord in the hearts and mind of the LDS!
There is no seperation LDS are as one in mind with the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!
No the last part did not go over my head ask my x-FR friend drstevej!
How do you know the Bible is true?
What makes you, restornu, think you can discern whether I am interested in a particular item or not? Your not even the person I asked about it.
As I said, I’ve read a great deal of apologist literature. If for no other reason than to know mine enemy.
I’ll go back to that site and look, but I don’t think they identified the story in question. Does that mean you don’t know which story it refers to?
What enemy are you one of those into conspiracies?
I did find “Izapa Stelae 5”, though on a different website. So I’d appreciate if you could site the BOM passage you say it depicts.
You really should ask one of the Mormon apologist on this thread for the further clarification. I wil not speak for them. I may have been mistaken in looking at the three pages of pix that one depicted a story from the BOM.
I see that kind of tyranny in Mormonism, therefor I am at enmity with Mormonism. (Figuratively speaking of course.) In truth it is the tyranny I oppose and not the people themselves.
Please explain; how are the doctrines of the LDS Church tyrannical?
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