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The Mormon Advantage
Townhall.com ^ | 4/5/2007 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 04/05/2007 5:42:47 PM PDT by Utah Girl

Mitt Romney is riding high this week after his victory in "the first primary," which consists of raising cold, hard cash to compete: more than $20 million in the first quarter, $5 million more than his closest contender, Rudy "Lay off my wife!" Giuliani. John McCain came in a lackluster third with $12.5 million.

Romney's campaign benefited from two distinct donor networks, according to media accounts: Wall Street and Mormons. GOP front-runner Rudy, struggling with one of those weird media freak shows erupting around his wife, Judith (her alleged participation in future Cabinet meetings and former puppy killings), must be a little envious on both counts.

Why is it that all the Dem candidates are still married to their first spouse, while among the current crop of leading GOP contenders, the only guy with just one wife is the Mormon?

Truth is, I don't think this is just an accident. There's something about Mormons the rest of us ought to pay attention to: Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do much better than almost any other faith group at sustaining a marriage culture -- and they do this while participating fully and successfully in modern life. Utah is above the national average in both household income and the proportion of adults who are college graduates.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; judith; mccain; romney
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Time out, tme out ... I need to pop some more air-pop popcorn and get some ice cubes for my soda. Just hold on for the next round ... the tickets for this slugfest were expensive, so don’t ignore your audience.


1,521 posted on 04/21/2007 7:33:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m out of this one, too, as I don’t like repeating myself. Pass some popcorn, would you?


1,522 posted on 04/21/2007 7:34:42 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh
Is it not puzzling what makes a thinking being to be so deliberate in misleading...
1,523 posted on 04/21/2007 7:36:15 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: MHGinTN
Delusional? It’s you antis that can’t leave it alone! Get it right. If I were to come to a thread that talked about your religion the way you come here spewing what you do, you might have something to point to my delusion, but I challenge you to show me a single post of mine doing that.
1,524 posted on 04/21/2007 7:36:24 PM PDT by sevenbak (My soul standeth fast in that liberty in the which God hath made us free.)
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To: restornu

Indeed. I can think of only the following explanations:

1. Mean-spiritedness
2. Disregard for honesty
3. Deceitfulness
4. Hatred


1,525 posted on 04/21/2007 7:39:05 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh
Think of the benefits we continue to nurture our testamony!:)
1,526 posted on 04/21/2007 7:39:14 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: restornu

Not when we engage in contention. Such behavior can only be aimed to produce that result.


1,527 posted on 04/21/2007 7:41:03 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

Well for me I have to stop, ask, ponder and wait on the Lord and than search the scriptures which I am lead to...


1,528 posted on 04/21/2007 7:45:34 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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Okay, okay, we’re back. Carry on with the twistfest.


1,529 posted on 04/21/2007 7:46:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: tantiboh

How about an orange soda ... I’m having a coke but there’s orange in the fridge. Might have some cranrasberry juice too; I keep it for my Mormon doctor friend when he comes by. All out of popcorn


1,530 posted on 04/21/2007 7:49:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Rameumptom
Justin Martyr, Iraneus and Hippolytus (among many others)believed God and Jesus to be seperate personages.

So did Enoch, we hashed that one to death as well. ;)

1,531 posted on 04/21/2007 7:52:16 PM PDT by sevenbak (My soul standeth fast in that liberty in the which God hath made us free.)
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To: Rameumptom
Justin Martyr, Iraneus and Hippolytus (among many others)believed God and Jesus to be seperate personages.

So did Enoch, we hashed that one to death as well. ;)

1,532 posted on 04/21/2007 7:52:17 PM PDT by sevenbak (My soul standeth fast in that liberty in the which God hath made us free.)
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To: restornu

I agree; it’s good to have our beliefs challenged. It gives us an opportunity to do some research, even adjust our perspective. But we’re going in circles now. All these questions were answered hundreds of posts ago.

It’s like this: You tell me my nose is blue. I say, no, it’s not! But I go get a mirror to check. If it were blue, I would say, Yes, you’re right. I’m going to go clean the blue off my nose. But if it’s not blue, I will say, see? It’s not blue. I can see it in the mirror! Then you tell me: No, it’s blue, I say! You obviously aren’t a mainstream kind of person, because your nose is blue! It’s so unorthodox! No, I say, look! I can see my nose in the mirror, and it’s not blue!

At some point, it becomes a waste of time. You know very well that my nose isn’t blue; and I know that my nose isn’t blue. So, when you keep accusing me of having a blue nose, I can do nothing further but to ignore you.

That’s the situation we’ve reached on this “polytheism” topic. I, for one, am fed up.


1,533 posted on 04/21/2007 7:52:47 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks, I like orange soda. I’ve got a can of roasted peanuts, if you’d like.


1,534 posted on 04/21/2007 7:54:46 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: restornu
Restornu,

When you say “Who says” in response to AMPU’s assertion in post#1515

Your argument is really with the 300 bishops who attended the Council of Niceae.

See Arianism on these pages:

http://www.exchangedlife.com/Sermons/topical/trinity/heresies1.shtml/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

Here’s an excerpt from the top page:

“After a heated debate, the vote was almost unanimous against this heresy and the church officially adopted a creed to state its belief on the deity of Christ. Included were the word ‘homoousios’, affirming that Jesus was of the same substance as the Father, yet separate in personhood.”

So AMPU is perfectly correct from his point of view and that of other orthodox Christians.

Of course there are other points of view but they can't be considered orthodox.

1,535 posted on 04/21/2007 7:55:09 PM PDT by Liberty Rattler (Don't tread on me!)
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To: Rameumptom
Interesting.

The whole ring of power has myths and ties to artifacts allegedly used by ancient biblical figures as well.

Here’s what Wikipedia has to say about Solomons magic ring:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon

A magic ring called the “Seal of Solomon” was supposedly given to Solomon, and gave him power over demons. The magical symbol said to have been on the Seal of Solomon which made it work is now better known as the Star of David. Asmodeus, king of demons, was one day, according to the classical Rabbis, captured by Benaiah using the ring, and was forced to remain in Solomon’s service. In one tale, Asmodeus brought a man with two heads from under the earth to show Solomon; the man, unable to return, married a woman from Jerusalem and had seven sons, six of whom resembled the mother, while one resembled the father in having two heads. After their father’s death, the son with two heads claimed two shares of the inheritance, arguing that he was two men; Solomon, owing to his huge wisdom (according to the tale), decided that the son with two heads was only one man.
Another legend concerning Asmodeus goes on to state that Solomon one day asked Asmodeus what could make demons powerful over man, and Asmodeus asked to be freed and given the ring so that he could demonstrate; Solomon agreed but Asmodeus threw the ring into the sea and it was swallowed by a fish. Asmodeus then swallowed the king, stood up fully with one wing touching heaven and the other earth, and spat out Solomon to a distance of 400 miles. The Rabbis claim this was a divine punishment for Solomon having failed to follow three divine commands, and Solomon was forced to wander from city to city, until he eventually arrived in an Ammonite city where he was forced to work in the king’s kitchens. Solomon gained a chance to prepare a meal for the Ammonite king, which the king found so impressive that the previous cook was sacked and Solomon put in his place; the king’s daughter, Naamah, subsequently fell in love with Solomon, but the family (thinking Solomon a commoner) disapproved, so the king decided to kill them both by sending them into the desert. Solomon and the king’s daughter wandered the desert until they reached a coastal city, where they bought a fish to eat, which just happened to be the one which had swallowed the magic ring. Solomon was then able to regain his throne and expel Asmodeus.
Demons also help out Solomon in building the Temple; not though by choice. The edifice was, according to rabbinical legend, throughout miraculously constructed, the large, heavy stones rising to and settling in their respective places of themselves. The general opinion of the Rabbis is that Solomon hewed the stones by means of a shamir, a mythical worm whose mere touch cleft rocks. According to Midrash Tehillim, the shamir was brought from paradise by Solomon’s eagle; but most of the rabbis state that Solomon was informed of the worm’s haunts by Asmodeus. The shamir had been entrusted by the prince of the sea to the mountain cock alone, and the cock had sworn to guard it well, but Solomon’s men found the bird’s nest, and covered it with glass. When the bird returned, it used the shamir to break the glass, whereupon the men scared the bird, causing it to drop the worm, which the men could then bring to Solomon.

1,536 posted on 04/21/2007 7:59:06 PM PDT by sevenbak (My soul standeth fast in that liberty in the which God hath made us free.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Here we go again... 1 Godhead = The Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

May we all be one as they are one!


1,537 posted on 04/21/2007 8:00:54 PM PDT by sevenbak (My soul standeth fast in that liberty in the which God hath made us free.)
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To: tantiboh
Diverticulitis ... the popcorn was too much all ready. Best not push it with peanuts. Thanks though ...
1,538 posted on 04/21/2007 8:02:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: tantiboh
Ah, come on. I am holding the phone. Can’t I talk about the Melchesidek Priesthood given to ancient prophets?

No one is answering the other end of the phone. ;-)

1,539 posted on 04/21/2007 8:03:17 PM PDT by sevenbak (My soul standeth fast in that liberty in the which God hath made us free.)
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To: sevenbak

Tweet! Double dribble ... turnover in the back court.


1,540 posted on 04/21/2007 8:03:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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