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Giuliani to social conservatives: Take it or leave it
CNN ^ | April 05, 2007

Posted on 04/05/2007 11:53:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: Howlin

He is the original compassionate Conservative. (I think he was still a Dem then)

821 posted on 04/05/2007 4:54:17 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Howlin
Actually most of the people over there are just sick to death of reading your condescending post, sort of like this one.

Awww...did da widdle Harpie's feewings get hurt??? Put some ice on it and increase your Premarin dosage.

822 posted on 04/05/2007 4:55:29 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Torie
This site is just filled with nasty boys these days. Sad. Where have all the flowers gone?

We are sick of Rino’s. I still remember you rooting for the ACLU commie Democrat in my congressional district over a true conservative, even after we nominated him. Gabrielle Giffords is a commie’s commie, but you preferred her to Randy Graf. I’ll bet you still like her, and she votes one hundred percent with Pelosi.

Rino betrayers have stabbed the rest of us one too many times. I still remember the Ford people heckling us and calling us names in 1976. I voted for Carter, and we got Reagan four years later. And man was it fun to watch the Rino’s lose. Carter and Ford were identical anyway.

I don’t know you. You are a screenname. There used to be a Torie Clark that worked for McCain’s staff. But I do know you lean heavily to the left, and have as long as I’ve been coming here. You are a Rockefeller Republican. Where I give you credit and props is you aren’t mean about it.

823 posted on 04/05/2007 4:56:01 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: SJackson

The holocaust of abortion, nearly 4000 dead American kids every day, makes the comparison apt. If that makes you uncomfortable, I can’t help that.


824 posted on 04/05/2007 4:56:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: SJackson

Oh, the one percenters!


825 posted on 04/05/2007 4:58:05 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Glad you see it our way, Rudy! Drop out of the race now and save yourself some embarrassment!


826 posted on 04/05/2007 4:58:06 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President *08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yes, but he supported abortion, remember?


827 posted on 04/05/2007 4:59:43 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Torie

You’re not a statistician, you provided no sample size nor did you include numbers along the margins.

You’re not going to BS me here.

This is not a yellow brick road surrounded by colorful flower beds. It is a serious place for those that trade on information.

Your information is poorly presented. It does not pass muster even on a beginner’s scale.

Even in this, you were asked a simple question about interpretation. You have twice refused to answer.

We’re done.


828 posted on 04/05/2007 4:59:46 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: SJackson
According to the logic of the ‘vote for anyone with an (R) to keep HRC out of the WH’ cult, the voter representation here at FR is insignificant and will not make any difference in the outcome of the general election anyways, so why should y’all care in the first place? As a matter of fact, this thread was begun by the admission of RINO Rudy that some social conservatives will just not be voting for him. Fine. He’s accepted it, why won’t the rest of you? What are you so afraid of?

The real problem is the fact that the 04 race was very close. The Republican party needs every vote they can get. In their mad rush to win at all costs, they’ve put up a liberal who will appeal to all voters in the country, liberals, moderates, and conservatives. However, the ‘get out the vote’ conservative base will not be fired up by a liberal candidate and that spells doom for RINO Rudy in the general election, as the number of voters gained from the center and left will not be enough to make up for those lost on the right. That is the reason I believe we see so much insistence from the RINO Rudy supporters that those who do not want a liberal in office disregard their principles and simply vote (R) to keep HRC out of office.

I’m sorry, but the Republican party is shooting itself in the foot with this selection, and they have nobody to blame but themselves. Some of us will stick to our principles since we are being asked to cross a line and make a compromise that is just unacceptable.

IMO, It would have been better for RINO Rudy to chase the dim nomination.

829 posted on 04/05/2007 5:00:29 PM PDT by Pox (Just say NO to RINO Rudy!)
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To: Spiff

Don’t flatter yourself; you’re not important enough to hurt anybody’s feelings.

The rest of your post is typical rubbish and tripe — your speciality.


830 posted on 04/05/2007 5:00:53 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Hostage
Even in this, you were asked a simple question about interpretation. You have twice refused to answer. We’re done.

Please, don't be done. Some of us are quite enjoying seeing Torie, the liberal lawyer, get gored by a statistician. Please continue.

831 posted on 04/05/2007 5:01:48 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: EternalVigilance
The holocaust of abortion, nearly 4000 dead American kids every day, makes the comparison apt. If that makes you uncomfortable, I can’t help that.

I couldn't care less. I won't be voting for Rudy in the primaries despite the lunacy of his collective detractors.

Unlike his collective detractors, I do think the country will be better off with President Rudy than President Hillary or President Obama, the 4,000 abortions notwithstanding.

And unlike his collective detractors, I don't think the conversation here is convincing many President Rudy supporters to support President Gingrich, Hunter (if he's still running), Romney, Thompson or even McCain.

But I could certainly be wrong.

Time will tell.

832 posted on 04/05/2007 5:02:14 PM PDT by SJackson (restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many Americans, A. Lincoln)
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To: Spiff
Giuliani is a flaming liberal and there is no way, under ANY circumstances, can I support him or vote for him. It is liberalism - overt and covert - that is ruining our country.

Agreed!

833 posted on 04/05/2007 5:02:22 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Shhh, I'm hunting RINOs.)
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To: PRND21
See #810, numnuts.

Like you have any room to squeal with your ‘Dumb Hacks’ comment’.

See: Hypocritical.

834 posted on 04/05/2007 5:02:29 PM PDT by Pox (Just say NO to RINO Rudy!)
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To: TommyDale
With his numbers dropping like a rock, Giuliani has already resorted to his "tough talk". Of course, it's with a lisp.

Ouch! That left teeth marks. LOL!

835 posted on 04/05/2007 5:02:30 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President *08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I won’t.


836 posted on 04/05/2007 5:02:52 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
A "moral man" also expanded government power in ways that Roosevelt and LBJ could only dream of.

Are you saying you hate GWB? I do not like his stance on immigration. He did not control spending very well....but the economy is not in bad shape and people are prospering.

A "moral man" got us stuck in Iraq because he wouldn't listen to people who actually knew how to fight a war.

Hello Murtha. I do not think we are stuck in Iraq, Its a tough fight, but Rudy has NO experience other than to turn down a few Saudi bucks and tell the old reprobate Arafat to take a hike. Easy to do if you are not POTUS. He failed to forsee the importance of even moving emergency services out of the WTC prior to 9/11. Tough guy Rudy, all mouth and PR.

A "moral man" and his policies cost his party both the House and the Senate.

Yeah, the house and Senate are gone due to lousy campaigns and poor turnout from the party as a whole. Pubbies get fat and lazy.

You better hope a moral man gets the nomination or all your bucks, security and freedom will disappear before your eyes.

837 posted on 04/05/2007 5:03:48 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Head FReeper BUMP!


838 posted on 04/05/2007 5:04:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Luke21
You have the gift. You told me off but good. It reminds me of that statute in the First Jesuit Church in Rome (the Gesu Church), where Mary is getting ready to lay the strap on Luther's back.

The cherub in the lower left hand corner by the way, is doing a number on a book just packed with liberal lies.

839 posted on 04/05/2007 5:05:27 PM PDT by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: EternalVigilance

Kthxbai


840 posted on 04/05/2007 5:06:07 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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