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Giuliani stands by support of publicly-funded abortions
CNN ^ | April 4th, 2007

Posted on 04/04/2007 12:52:50 PM PDT by KantianBurke

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To: Jake The Goose
His view has never changed - so talking about this as news is silly.

It's news to anyone who didn't yet know his position on this.

121 posted on 04/04/2007 1:36:01 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: KantianBurke

The majority of women who are eligible for publicly funded abortions do fall into that category. And many who still had realistic potential to avoid welfare and lead productive lives will have that potential derailed by having a baby before they have enough education to support themselves and a child. You can always to point to anecdotal exceptions, but the fact is that NYC’s gang-infested public housing projects are filled primarily with people who were born to mothers who were already on welfare (either directly, or as minor dependents of their welfare mothers) and were eligible for publicly funded abortions. There are precious few people who emerge from that background to be productive members of society.


122 posted on 04/04/2007 1:36:27 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Jake The Goose
Name a single POTUS who did anything to stop abortions? You can’t - it has nothing to do with being President.

Bush's Pro-Life Record as of May 18, 2004

123 posted on 04/04/2007 1:36:53 PM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

That’s a sick attitude.


124 posted on 04/04/2007 1:36:59 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: areafiftyone
He’s done and you know it. He just blew it with his “strict constructionist judges” spin. Its over.
125 posted on 04/04/2007 1:37:11 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: KantianBurke

>> “There must be public funding for abortions for poor women,” Giuliani says

And yet, so many politicians grasp at the opportunity to make the endearing claim of their birth to that of a poor family.


126 posted on 04/04/2007 1:37:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Alberta's Child; GovernmentShrinker

Don’t you think Welfare and the government doesn’t pay for abortions anyway? If medicaid pays for D and C’s at all some of them are really abortions but the doctors put them in as D and C’s medical procedures to get paid for doing them. what do you think they do with health insurance. They put it down as a D and C.


127 posted on 04/04/2007 1:37:28 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

Except you people protest when we use “old stories” to make a point.

Now it’s a NEW story.


128 posted on 04/04/2007 1:38:11 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Giuliani's CA spokesperson is radical leftist, gun grabbing Dem Bill Lockyer. Odd, that.)
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To: KantianBurke

I can NEVER vote for this man because he loves to kill babies.

I will sit out the election if I can’t vote Pro Life.

I cannot face God one day and say that I voted to kill babies.


129 posted on 04/04/2007 1:38:17 PM PDT by TNLawyer (I cannot vote to kill babies in 2008.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Putting a price tag on a human life is just plain sick.


130 posted on 04/04/2007 1:38:17 PM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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To: Rastus; Fierce Allegiance
Well said, Rastus:

Rudy says he will appoint justices who are strict constructionists, and yet, he sees abortion as a right enshrined in the Constitution? Sorry, but I will never vote to give this man the power to appoint anyone to the Supreme Court.

131 posted on 04/04/2007 1:38:24 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Beagle8U
He’s done and you know it. He just blew it with his “strict constructionist judges” spin. Its over.

I think that's what you Freepers said the last time this was posted and that video was on FR. Didn't work then and won't work now. Most Americans could not care less about abortion at this time. They may not like it but they don't use that to vote for president.

132 posted on 04/04/2007 1:38:46 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: kevkrom

No no - they do matter you are correct.

The real question is the weight applied to the issues of the day?

- Abortion vs. the WOT - war, leadership.

Ok - so we dock Rudy a point here - a point there - but he earns more points then he loses.

That’s why he leads in the pols.

People are not dumb - they consider - and the judge.

Right now - they judge him more positive than anyone else.


133 posted on 04/04/2007 1:39:07 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone
And you really think that abortion will be gone? It will be thrown back to the states. And then it will be up to the individual states to decide.

If there is a right to life then surely it is a fundamental right protected by the Constitution. I do not believe the SCOTUS would allow each state to decide whether or not to protect this fundamental right. After all, the SCOTUS found the "right to privacy" to be a fundamental right protected by the Constitution. They did not rule that each state could decide whether or not they would protect this right.

I believe the oft cited mantra that, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the SCOTUS will leave abortion to be decided by the states is highly unlikely and not grounded in any rational interpretation of the Constitution.

134 posted on 04/04/2007 1:39:25 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Jake The Goose

“Can you imagine what they would call him?”

Mitt?


135 posted on 04/04/2007 1:39:31 PM PDT by madconservative (Founding member of the Constantinople Liberation Organization.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually I’d much rather that passive contraceptives be mandatory for welfare recipients. Then there would be no need for the abortions. Someone who can’t support themselves has no business having a baby and sticking taxpayers with the resulting bills.


136 posted on 04/04/2007 1:39:41 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Kuksool
If Rudy hates abortion so much, then why does he want to force pro-life people to pay for them with their money?

The same reason why anti-war ex-hippie peacenik tree-huggers have to pay for the war in Iraq. You live in this country, you pay for stuff you disagree with all the time. If it's the law, and is publicly funded, because that's the way the law is written - "it" is paid for by everyone who pays taxes.

Why should I be forced to pay for some a$$hat Senator in Alaska's "Bridge to Nowhere"? I shouldn't, but I have no choice in the matter.

137 posted on 04/04/2007 1:39:59 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Prokopton
?I do not believe the SCOTUS would allow each state to decide whether or not to protect this fundamental right.

They will. I can guarantee it. They don't want to rule on something like this . They will throw it to the states.

138 posted on 04/04/2007 1:40:26 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Is that the choice? Really? Either kill 1.5 million babies a year or pay $300 billion in welfare payments?

You know, an even more fiscally conservative idea would be to bring back slavery for all low level government positions. Think of the money we would save by paying them just room and board!

Here is another fiscally conservative idea: how about "aborting" our seniors when they hit 70 years of age? I am thinking we could do that for a cost of about $250 each. Good deal, huh?

139 posted on 04/04/2007 1:40:41 PM PDT by shempy (EABOF in '08)
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To: kevkrom

No, it’s facing reality.


140 posted on 04/04/2007 1:41:15 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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