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Russia's Air Forces to Buy Dozens of KA-50/52 attack helicopters
ITAR-TASS ^ | Apr. 04, 2007

Posted on 04/04/2007 11:32:06 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Russia's Air Forces to Buy Dozens of Black Sharks, Alligators

Russia is planning to purchase several dozens of the Ka-50 Black Shark and Ka-52 Alligator helicopters to boost operations of special forces, the ITAR-TASS news agency said Wednesday.

Series manufacture for Ka-50/52 helicopters resumed at a plant in Arsenyev last year after a lengthy downtime.

Choppers of the Kamov design and construction bureau lost a tender to the Mi-28N of Milay design bureau to develop the main helicopter for Russian air forces. Kamov, however, has been chosen to construct choppers for Russian special forces.

A Ka-50 and a Ka-52 are different in crew capacity and equipment. A Ka-50 has place for only one pilot, compared to two people in a Ka-52 which is designed to be used as a commander’s aircraft.

A Ka-50 and a Ka-52 weight 11 tons each and can take up to two tons of cargo. Their maximum speed is 300 km/hour. The range is 260 kilometers.

www.kommersant.com


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; armsbuildup; attackhelicopter; helicopter; ka50; kamov; russia
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The KA-52 Alligator

1 posted on 04/04/2007 11:32:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Chechnya?
2 posted on 04/04/2007 11:34:44 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

Hmmm.


3 posted on 04/04/2007 11:37:27 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

flying deathtrap


4 posted on 04/04/2007 11:37:35 AM PDT by Domicile of Doom (Hey boy why is there dirt in my hole? I dunno Boss.)
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To: 2banana

Maybe,but they need close to a hundred if they want to fully modernise their attack helicopter force,revolving around the aging Mi-24 Hind.They seem to have invested more faith in a ‘lean & mean’ version of the Hind,the Mi-28.

Or it could be to improve the type’s chances in export competitions.


5 posted on 04/04/2007 11:39:43 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pretty aircraft. Didn’t Kaman play around with twin rotor systems? Or were Kaman’s not concentric?


6 posted on 04/04/2007 11:41:31 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Top speed of 180 mph for a winged, contra rotating helicopter is slow (sikorsky is talking almost 2 times this) and the 150 mile range flat out sucks.

It looks pretty cool, though.

7 posted on 04/04/2007 11:43:13 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Domicile of Doom
Have to agree...nice looking A/C, but the transmission and gearboxes, must be a maintenance nightmare, not to mention reliability
8 posted on 04/04/2007 11:43:37 AM PDT by thinking
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To: UNGN

You’re much faster at the math than am I. :)

:O)

P


9 posted on 04/04/2007 11:46:12 AM PDT by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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To: thinking

Pretty indeed, don’t know if I’d like to catch a ride though...


10 posted on 04/04/2007 11:46:57 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk ("Truth: the anti-drug war")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They can’t seem to get away from the counter rotating blades but at least they don’t look like shopping carts anymore.


11 posted on 04/04/2007 11:56:01 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The world’s only attack helicopter with an ejection seat system (blades detach).


12 posted on 04/04/2007 11:57:08 AM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: UNGN; papasmurf

Don’t fall for the 150 mile figure quickly folks!!!Even the Russians would have thrown it out if it were that low.Kamov’s website gives a range of 1,100 kms with external fuel tanks.Think range with a normal payload would be around 300 miles.

http://kamov.ru/market/paghan/tka-50wr.html


13 posted on 04/04/2007 11:59:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: LIConFem

The Hormone?

Wasnt that the name of it?


14 posted on 04/04/2007 12:01:07 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: Armedanddangerous

That’s the name of a Russian naval helo,I think the KA-25.The KA-50 is the Hokum.


15 posted on 04/04/2007 12:03:14 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Natchez Hawk; thinking

Well this aircraft has had a pretty interesting,but rather unfortunate history.It beat out the Mi-28 in most performance parameters,but the Russians still hedged their bets with the Mi-28 as it was cheaper & offered some commonality with the Mi-24.A joint Israeli-Russian offering of the KA-50 almost won Turkey’s attack helo competition in 2000 but for US pressure on Turkey.


16 posted on 04/04/2007 12:06:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
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17 posted on 04/04/2007 12:08:05 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I still think Airwolf was the best look helicopter.


18 posted on 04/04/2007 12:08:53 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: rjp2005

The Russians were the first to come up with automatic ejection.


19 posted on 04/04/2007 12:18:11 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: sukhoi-30mki
This is their new amphibious attack helo.

Regards.

20 posted on 04/04/2007 12:33:15 PM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.)
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