[FairOpinion]

Two points:

1. Watch more and more conservatives supporting Giuliani.

2. These CA polls showing Hillary beating all Republicans, including Rudy in CA -- BUT Arnold won in CA -- the same way Giuliani has a chance. In toss up states Giuliani is close or even beating Hillary, so the Dems wouldn't be able to take some blue states for granted.

[FairOpinion]

Rudy ping

[fireforeffect]

If the choice was Giuliani vs McCain, than Giuliani would get my vote. But we are still in spring training, I am not yet willing to pick a team to win the World Series.

[MCCRon58]

Maybe conservative have a better understanding the President is NOT semantically equivalent to King.

Which is why the founders wrote detetrmined that the powers of the president would be limited in all matters not relating to the defense of the country.

Now if we could just get the liberals to also understand that “Commander in Chief” is not the same as “Committee-in-Chief”

[Always Right]

That is because ‘strongly conservatives’ hate McCain. Giuliani is marginally acceptable, but this support is weak.

[Old Retired Army Guy]

This may be a long shot, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mc Cain pull the plug on his campaign. If he does, look for Thompson to jump in (They are pretty tight buds).

[zarf]

Good to see Rudy doing well. Hillary's fundraising numbers may be putting more and more conservatives into a pragmatic mindset.

[#1CTYankee]

"The former mayor of New York leads Sen. John McCain by a 36 percent to 24 percent margin among the state's likely GOP primary voters, and is the choice of nearly four in 10 of those who say they are "strongly conservative."

I wonder how many whom identify themselves as "Strongly Conservative" are actually Conservative.

[RicocheT]

If California Republicans can support Giuliani, they should not consider themselves conservatives. Conservative or “moderate”, no Republican should seriously consider McCain as he is a nut job who uses his Senate seat as a way to push himself in front of TV cameras.

As a conservative, I could hold my nose and vote for Romney, but I am still praying for a real conservative to emerge who does not have baggage (baggage like Fred Thompson’s divorces).

[aligncare]

Soliciting your Fair Opinion.

Dear Fair,

Since I first voted in 1988 for George HW Bush, I have always voted the conservative line. Does that make me a conservative?

I feel that I am a conservative, but my friends say I’m a liberal because I am considering voting for Mayor Giuliani for president.

What’s your opinion?

Confused in New York.

[dangus]

The poll details you chose to highlight are nonsensical. The poll did not include the two main conservatives, Thompson and Gingrich. It only included McCain, Giuliani and Romney, and half of the respondents never heard of Romney. The real news is that when Thompson and Gingrich were added in, Giuliani’s massive lead all but disappeared.

About 1 in 6 conservative voters are enchanted with McCain’s “maverick” image. The rest are torn between two people who claim to be conservative, but governed very liberal places as liberals. Of these, the largest group side with Giuliani, a national hero, over unknown Mitt Romney. Many desperately with men who are genuinely conservative, but everyon figures is completely unelectable: Ginrich. Throw in Thompson, and a sizeable portion of Giuliani voters switch to him.

If Thompson runs, he’ll be able to correct his bio: He isn’t “just an actor,” and he was more than “just an actor” when he was elected to the US Senate for eight years. He’s a brilliant anti-corruption prosecuting attorney who brought down a sitting Democratic governor on corruption charges, and who helped the Republican party salvage credibility in Watergate by constructing tough, effective, and fair questions.

[NittanyLion]

is the choice of nearly four in 10 of those who say they are "strongly conservative."

Hard to believe they could find ten Californians that identify themselves as "strongly conservative". Maybe the real number was 2 of 5.

[ElectricStrawberry]

How’s he doing in the fundraising department?

[Getsmart64]

I don’t believe that “conservatives” are supporting Rudy...I believe that is false...Rudy doesn’t support any conservative ideals so why would true conservatives support Rudy?.....maybe Repubs in those blue states are supporting Rudy...but a repub in a blue state is a dem in a red state....

[cookcounty]

Interesting that McCain does much better than the more liberal Giuliani vs. Clinton.

[cookcounty]

Are there actually real people that believe the GOP race in California will be between McCain and Giuliani????

Thompson, Romney, Hunter....all are more preferable to conservatives than Giuliani, and McCain has spent so much effort dissing his fellow pubbies, that he may be irredeemable.

[auto power]

....10....9....8...7....6....5...4...3...waiting for the Rudy bashers.....

[tiger-one]

“more and more conservatives supporting Giuliani” They are not conservatives, they are RINOs and liberals

[Thud]

The links don’t work. Was this a Field poll, or some other company’s poll?

[Rick_Michael]

I fail to see much of anything on ‘the right’ as far as Arnold’s concerned. To win is to go left!?

I live in Cali...it’s electoral count is about the only reason why it’s politically important. But I doubt Rudy can win here. It’s slowly turning into leftists haven.

Repubs should work for an electoral limit of states. The only reason why we lose California is that there’s a higher margin of leftists. Not that much more in hindsight. North and South California?

[George W. Bush]

In hypothetical general election match-ups, Sen. Hillary Clinton, Sen. Barack Obama and 2004 vice-presidential nominee John Edwards beat Giuliani and McCain.

Clinton gets 53 percent of the vote compared with Giuliani's 40 percent, and she beats McCain by a 48 percent to 43 percent margin. Obama gets 51 percent of the vote matched against both. Edwards receives 51 percent of the vote vs. Giuliani and 49 percent when pitted against McCain.

Okay, so now we're getting hard data that the Holy Polls show Giuliani can't win these liberal strongholds (first NY, now CA).

I'd say it's time for the Rudybots, who demand everyone worship the Holy Polls, to admit their candidate can never win, given that his nomination would certainly cause a defection of conservatives to third parties or to leave their ballots blank or to stay home.

If the earlier polls were supposed to cause conservatives to flock to Rudy, then these later polls, should now cause the Juliebots to abandon him. Or else they were just being dishonest all along.

1. Watch more and more conservatives supporting Giuliani.

No, his support is dropping. When the RKBA and pro-lifers and pro-family organizations speak out, he'll drop like a rock. He'll be forgotten in six months.

2. These CA polls showing Hillary beating all Republicans, including Rudy in CA -- BUT Arnold won in CA -- the same way Giuliani has a chance. In toss up states Giuliani is close or even beating Hillary, so the Dems wouldn't be able to take some blue states for granted.

Oh, okay, so now he's not beating her hands down in all these liberal states. So now you have to switch to the argument of how he'll force her to defend those states.

We nearly lost in 2000 because of Rove's failed attempt to force Gore to defend California. Don't expect us to fall for that one again.