“There’s nothing in the posted article that talks about him being captured by the Iranians. If you are making the claim that he was captured, then provide proof of same.”
I don’t know what to tell you. take a deep breath and re-read what I wrote.
“Is it honorable to disregard orders and training?”
THESE orders and THIS training? Historically; YES.
“Is surrendering in the first place honorable (which current information indicates they were ordered to do).”
“Personally, I would have preferred the Brits start bombing and not stop until the hostages were released. But this author makes a judgment on what these individuals should have done without knowing them, what their specific orders were for after they were captured, or what they went through while being held captive.”
Derbyshire’s remarks, like mine are based upon tradition. Darbyshire, like myself, unerstands that the West is weakening. This is a proccess millions have observed and commented upon for a generation now. It didn’t start on the bridge of the Cornwall.
This break with good sense will cost far more lives in the end than any proper aggression that day against the Irainians could have.
We know what Iran is up to. We know what they have planned for us. We know that the leadership is as crazy as Hitler. Showing that sort of people weakness is suicidal.
Consider that the 19th century was the bloodiest that the world had seen—untill the 20th came along.
Now we begin the 21st on this auspicious note: As the 19th towered over the 18th in spilled blood and the 20th towered over the 19th, so will the 21st tower over the 20th.
Responses like the Cornwalls in the face of psychos like the iranians guarntees it. The Captain of the Cornwall should have done his duty THEN called Blighty.
“The Captain of the Cornwall should have done his duty THEN called Blighty.”
He (AND the reporter Ian Pannel) watched the Iran patrol craft approach the vessel the 15 had boarded, surely while in radio contact with the 15.
I would LOVE to hear what advisory and/or orders were given at this time to the 15, not to mention whatever went to and came from London.
Ah, so you aren't trying to claim that he ever faced what these individuals have. Then for him to claim what others should do when he has never done it himself (and there's no evidence that he even allowed himself to be in a position that would have put him at risk of being captured by the Iranians) is hypocritical.
THESE orders and THIS training? Historically; YES.
Please tell me what in history indicates that it would be a good idea for the people in this particular situation to disobey their orders.
Derbyshire’s remarks, like mine are based upon tradition.
The fact remains, neither you nor Derbyshire know these people, know what their orders were, nor know what they experienced while being held hostage.
This break with good sense will cost far more lives in the end than any proper aggression that day against the Irainians could have.
As you know, I agree that the Brits should have taken aggressive action. That's far different from saying that no matter what their government does or has ordered these individuals to do, they shouldn't have appeared on video.