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What a silly point of view.
Brits ARENT wimps. That credit goes to Downing St and their moonbat minority. The US has it’s wimp quotient as well.
I find this comment article by John Derbyshire premature (we haven’t heard from the sailors and marines themselves) and thus offensive.
What a bunch of hooey.
I sympathize with Derbyshire, but I’m not sure he’s right.
Apparently the Rules of Engagement were to surrender immediately rather than defend themselves. So they were taken hostage not because of any failure on their part, but because they followed instructions. The captain of the backup ship, too, followed direct orders not to defend his men.
And I’m far from sure what the rules are now for prisoners.
It used to be name, rank, and serial number, period. But I suspect that like the rules of engagement those guidelines may have been changed by the British politicians, so they are instructed to do whatever it takes not to get themselves killed. I’m not at all sure about that, but I suspect it. In any case, when your leaders refuse to let you defend yourself in the face of the enemy, it undermines the kind of resistance Derbyshire calls for.
I’m reminded of that scene from “Red Dawn” at the makeshift re-education camp in that drive-in theatre. Harry Dean Stanton’s character Mr. Eckert tells his boys not to cry and as they leave, calls out to them “Avenge me!” That’s the backbone a captive should have. Don’t cry for me, don’t sacrifice your freedom for mine; “Avenge me.” If only I can be that strong if ever in such circumstances.
This could have been avoided if the British hadn’t been denied authority to fire on the Iranians when they kidnapped the marines.Second,if i had a gun to my head i’d say anything too-i’d even put on a hajib:)
Here's a message for Dirby if he trolls FR: "Go to hell, you POS."
I faulted Ralph Peterson yesterday and I’ll fault Derbyshire now - to accuse the Royal Marines of anything at all based on a few Iranian television images is simply unfair. Let’s at least get their side of it before we go calling anyone a “wimp.”
This whole thing seems so stage managed by the left, to me. Traitors in high places to make a whole country look bad.
I wonder if Mr. Derbyshire has ever been held hostage. I wonder if he was ever in the military, and if so, in what capacity?
Easy to talk when one is sitting behind a computer keyboard.
Talk about making the Brits look weak then!
As it went, it made the Iranians the aggressors and the show trial was just that, a show trial. And for any future confrontations with the Iranians, I think we will pick up a bit more support from the British populace.
“It is the job of a Royal Marine to fight, and if necessary suffer and die, for his country..”
Could it have been that these Marines have given up on their country considering that it is given away to the very people that they are supposed to protect their country from?
He’s right. Wimps. The Phony Blur government is a disgrace.
Would being made national heroes be a "worse fate?"
Because that's what's going to happen to them in that poor benighted country.
Before deciding whether to send the 15 to break rocks in the Outer Hebrides, how about flogging around the fleet (or what’s left of the fleet) those who wrote the rules of engagement?
They missed a helluva good chance today to kill their captor instead of shaking his hand.