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To: FredHunter08
Rudy, on the other hand, is quite open about his intentions to disarm us.

I have to disagree. Mr. Giuliani has openly stated his understanding of Second Amendment rights as protecting individual RKBA. I've never heard him say he has intentions to disarm us. Any citation?

35 posted on 04/03/2007 7:37:07 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare

Rudy’s own words.” I know many people argue that keeping and bearing arms is federally guaranteed right as stated in the Second Amendment of the Constitution.

But even in the Second Amendment, it refers to firearms in the context of a well regulated militia, and well regulated is what we’re trying to accomplish.”

No he don’t want to disarm people. He just wants to make it so expensive that only the “proper kind of people” will have guns.
Rudy just needs to stay in NYC. We don’t want his kind of freedom spread around the country.


40 posted on 04/03/2007 7:53:25 PM PDT by A1 Southern Man (Fred Thompson , the one who can win.)
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To: aligncare

I have to disagree. Mr. Giuliani has openly stated his understanding of Second Amendment rights as protecting individual RKBA. I’ve never heard him say he has intentions to disarm us. Any citation?

Even in his most recent reincarnation, he said that the 2nd Amendment protects a persons right to hunt and posess hunting guns not handguns for self defense. His intentions are best discerned by his past actions when he tried to sue the gun manufacturers out of business.


41 posted on 04/03/2007 7:54:45 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08 Pro family, pro life, pro second Amendment, not a control freak.)
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To: aligncare; Kevmo; Joe Brower
You haven't read up on his words, have you?

Rudy Defends his gun lawsuit as Mayor (Video)
Summary of Rudy on Gun Control by Gun Owners of America
Rudy Giuliani: Gun manufacturers knowingly calculate sales to illegal market
As ’08 Candidate, Giuliani Strikes a New Tone on Guns
Citizens Crime Comission (Rudy Giuliani on Guns)

Excerpt from the last link:

"And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts."

Rudy's gun control stance is downright scary. I leave you with this photo.

64 posted on 04/03/2007 9:19:59 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008. Audio, Video, and Quotes in my profile.)
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To: aligncare
“Mr. Giuliani has openly stated his understanding of Second Amendment rights as protecting individual RKBA.”

He has not. He just mentioned “hunting”.

“I’ve never heard him say he has intentions to disarm us. Any citation?”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/799060.stm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs5DxwzEXHQ

65 posted on 04/03/2007 9:22:20 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: aligncare
Forgot one more.

Law and Order and Guns.

Giuliani’s rationalizing of New York City’s suit against the gun makers also tells something about his views. In justifying the lawsuit, Giuliani claimed that the gun makers were “deliberately manufacturing many more firearms than can be bought for legitimate purposes of hunting and law enforcement.

No RKBA to be found.

67 posted on 04/03/2007 9:26:50 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008. Audio, Video, and Quotes in my profile.)
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To: aligncare
Mr. Giuliani has openly stated his understanding of Second Amendment rights as protecting individual RKBA. I've never heard him say he has intentions to disarm us. Any citation?

What kind of a fool would directly tell the US that he intends to strip them of a fundamental constitutional right? No politician will ever say this, but we can still guage his intentions based on past actions and statements of belief.

"We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons, and if in fact you do need a handgun you should be subjected to at least the same restrictions – and really stronger ones – that exist for driving an automobile," he said in 1997.

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting. - What about self defense, sport shooting, our last resort against a tyrannical government?

“The more guns you take out of society, the more you are going to reduce murder. The less you take out of society, the more it is going to go up.” - This belief clearly indicates that he does not trust law abiding citizens to defend themselves, families and property.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emeu2KRt2Vg - discusses his support of national gun registration and written tests prior to exercising 2A right. What if we said the same about voting?

"You got to regulate consistent with the second amendment.” - How is this congruent with "shall not be infringed"?

83 posted on 04/04/2007 6:18:38 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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