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The Secret War Against Iran (ABCNEWS reveals operational secrets)
ABC NEWS ^ | April 03, 2007 | Brian Ross and Christopher Isham

Posted on 04/03/2007 3:34:02 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: HardStarboard; Zeroisanumber
The attack by the Baluchis was on Iranian Army units. Thats not terrorism....thats war against a country that is killing our guys in Iraq...and has been killing Baluchi tribesman for ages!

While that's technically true, it seems to miss the forest for the trees. The same Baluchi tribesmen who are attacking (right now) only military targets in Iran are, in neighboring Pakistan harboring large numbers of Taliban and Al Qaeda.

It seems a bit odd (and perhaps myopic) that the US would be supporting the same people in Iran whom it is fighting in Pakistan. Remember that Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed are both Pakistani Baluchis.

The Baluchis are Sunni extremists and I fail to see how they are in any way preferable to Shi'ite extremists (the Iranian Revolutionary Guard).

61 posted on 04/04/2007 7:15:40 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Zeroisanumber
Figured there was a US/Saudi hand in what's been happening with terror attacks in Iran. CIA provides the trainers and weapons, Saudis provide the money to back. The February bombing was just a little too above the level of competence that these guys have shown before. >{? Don't like that we're funding terror groups, even if they're our terror groups.

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Not likely. This area of iran is awash in weapons, drugs, bandits and remnants of the Taliban. Our CIA doesn't operate everywhere and our 'ally' Pakistan considers this version of jundallah (as opposed to the pali version) a terrorist threat.

All recognized sources (Jamestown, Stratfor, etc) posit that this jundallah is not looking to topple tehran but wants to establish a taliban-style autonomous region that would be supported by the opium traffic that runs unhindered through there now.

62 posted on 04/04/2007 8:11:59 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Alter Kaker

I would love to see the President dispatch an army of Federal Marshals to occupy the offices of the damned new networks. Then Jail the maggots responsible for these stories and the editors for treason.


63 posted on 04/04/2007 10:12:06 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Alter Kaker
>>>Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed are both Pakistani Baluchis. <<<

Thats right. That's what makes them very good at what they do. We are not proposing to give Iran to the Baluchis - Oh maybe a few thousand square miles of sand in Southwestern Iran for helping in the overthrow - but not the reigns of power over all of Iran and its nuke program.

And thats what makes the Baluchi more desirable than the IRG....the Baluchis are a tribe, given at times to terrorist acts, but generally they want to be left alone.

The Iranians on the other hand are a State power, developing nukes, have a full blown military, have ICBM's of 2500km range ready for warheads(which they are developing concurrently with nuke bomb development) and have vowed to push Israel into the sea...and bring terrorism to the heartland of America. They support Hezbolla in Lebanon and, no doubt Hezbolla cells in the US.

I'm not sure the Baluchi's and the Taliban are buddies. KSM may have been an exception, swayed by bin Laden. The Baluchi, as I understand, inhabit an area where Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan all meet. That is not close to the Wazeristan area of the Paki/Afghan border where the Taliban are holed up. But I realize that geography isn't everything. Yousef, in fact, may have been working for Saddam's secret service, the Mukhabarat. After the 1993 WTC bombing he traveled on an Iraqi passport with a cover name that came from a Kuwaiti killed in Saddams invasion. [Google "Who Is Ramzi Yousef and why it is important" written by Laurie Mylorie in 1995, a Clinton Middle East adviser who is one of the brightest lights on terrorism and written several books critical of Clinton! Its long...but fascinating. Traces the probable history of Ramzi. The Clinton administration sought to bury Mylorie's testimony to the 911 Commission]

Bottom line: the enemy of my enemy is my friend and Iran is a far greater threat than the Baluchi tribe.

64 posted on 04/04/2007 2:30:29 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: HardStarboard
The area is rife with drug trafficking tribal bandit types. They don't want to overthrow Tehran. They want freedom to transit opiates and in the case of jundallah group, set up a shia run taliban style region.

They don't need our help and we don't need to be in bed with them. They enemy of our enemy is not always our friend, sometimes it is just another enemy.

65 posted on 04/04/2007 5:11:42 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
Modification for Current Times: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend, until is no longer my friend, and then we wack 'em!"

I know of no other way to deal in the Middle East. We are in a war for "respect"....and "fear" is what substitutes for respect in the Middle East.

66 posted on 04/04/2007 9:41:16 PM PDT by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: Hatteras

oh...it should be ethical.

The Democrats wanted to see the Reagan Administration to go down...but that survived.

Did Ollie North go to jail?

We all want to see the Democrats take over in 2008. They will become the most incompetent administration since Jimmy Carter....watch it...they will tear down the Patriot Act and put up the Gorelick wall again.

We don’t have to rely on ABC, NBC or CBS for our news anymore.


67 posted on 04/05/2007 9:54:17 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan
"Did Ollie North go to jail?"

No, but he was despised by the left and his name was the new four-letter word for Democrats (much like Newt later on) and he disappeared off the radar for some time until the dust settled. If I recall correctly, the onset of the Persian Gulf War, and with the help of FOX News, he started making his way back into the talk show green rooms as an expert analyist.

68 posted on 04/05/2007 10:08:00 AM PDT by Hatteras (I'm a sweetheart, genius, a reckless jerk. Lord have mercy, I'm a piece of work...)
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