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A secret British delegation arrives in Tehran, Ahmadinejad pushes for military confrontation
Debka ^ | 04/03/07

Posted on 04/03/2007 9:33:32 AM PDT by nypokerface

The fierce – often strident - debate between pragmatists and radicals prompted supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who leads the first camp, to order president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who speaks for the radicals, to call off his planned news conference on Tuesday, April 3. The president had intended to unveil an important advance in the national nuclear program; he certainly did not mean to augur a breakthrough in the 12-day hostage crisis.

In the ongoing debate, the president and his radical followers seek to use the British captives to goad the British, followed by the Americans, into a limited military confrontation in the Persian Gulf. Iran would then exploit its local edge to teach the West that it is not worth their while to mess with the Islamic Republic in a full-blown war or count on trouncing it easily.

DEBKAfile’s sources in Tehran report that it is hard to predict which way the dispute will go. There were moments on Monday and Tuesday when it looked as though the Khamenei line for ending the crisis, backed also by supreme national security advisers Ali Larijani, would prevail. Larijani came out Monday night with the encouraging statement that there was no need to put the captured British sailors on trial and the crisis could be solved through bilateral diplomacy. He said a delegation might come to Tehran to review the points at issue.

Tuesday, a British military delegation did indeed arrive secretly in Tehran.

Larijani’s statement was the outcome of back-channel talks between Tehran and London, partly by videoconference, in which the British promised to de-escalate their tone and calm the situation, in return for an Iranian pledge that the captives would not be tried.

London allowed the 15 sailors to admit they had trespassed into Iranian waters, while Tehran agreed to suspend further television footage. London also offered to help work for the release of the five Revolutionary Guards al-Quds Brigade officers captured by US agents in Baghdad. One of them, second secretary at the Baghdad embassy, Jalal Sharafi, was indeed set free Tuesday.

The British even offered to obtain for Iran information on the whereabouts of the missing Iranian general Ali Reza Asgari, believed to have defected to the West in February.

Our sources add that the radical faction of the Iranian leadership is still working hard to derail the positive diplomatic track and use the crisis to bring about a military escalation in the Gulf. Ahmadinejad is supported in this by the Revolutionary Guards commander Gen. Yahya Rahim Safavi and RG Navy chief, Gen. Morteza Saffar. They are stirring up public opinion to back them up in the hope of bring the supreme ruler round to their view – so far without success.

To further this campaign, the president’s followers organized Sunday’s protest at the British embassy in Tehran and had the Bassij (the RGs civilian militia) round up a student petition at Iran’s 266 universities and colleges for putting the 15 British sailors and marines on trial and executing them. This would have been a provocation that the British could not pass over without drastic action.

DEBKAfile reports that up until now, the moderate pragmatists are on top of the debate. Forcing the radical president to postpone his press conference gave them a victory. But the debate continues and is still unresolved.


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1 posted on 04/03/2007 9:33:33 AM PDT by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

I wonder what the Chinese would say, if their flow of oil from Iran was disrupted?


2 posted on 04/03/2007 9:37:10 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: nypokerface

Executed UK sailors equals a much larger Persian Gulf.


3 posted on 04/03/2007 9:37:39 AM PDT by wastedyears ("These colours don't run, from cold bloody war." - Steve Harris, Bruce Dickinson)
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To: nypokerface
Brits have blamed this on US foreign policy, Just like the American Left and the Islamists blame all the world's problems on US foreign policy.

4 posted on 04/03/2007 9:38:06 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: nypokerface

A swap! Dump Rosie O’Fat, Sean Penn (”we have nukes so Iran should have them too”, Charlie Sheen and take your pick of other idiots for the Brit soldiers.


5 posted on 04/03/2007 9:38:27 AM PDT by LYSandra
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To: stuartcr

While it would be interesting, I don’t care what the Chinese would have to say.


6 posted on 04/03/2007 9:38:40 AM PDT by wastedyears ("These colours don't run, from cold bloody war." - Steve Harris, Bruce Dickinson)
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To: stuartcr
I can guarantee that the Chinese wouldn’t be reacting the same way if it were their sailors that had been captured.
7 posted on 04/03/2007 9:39:27 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: nypokerface

Yea, some secret all over the internet!


8 posted on 04/03/2007 9:42:48 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: wastedyears

A much larger persion gulf maybe, but for certain, several hundred less islamo nazi terrorists in iran.


9 posted on 04/03/2007 9:44:03 AM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: nypokerface

We’re now approaching 30 years where we have been treated to incisive news reporting/analysis that attempts to explain to us the differences between the “hardliners” and the “pragmatists” in Iran. But nothing ever seems to come of this in real terms. We’re supposed to be aware of these mythical power struggles between these two imagined groups. Yet, it never quite works out that way.

I say we should know them by their fruits and realize that this is always been a bad game of “good cop/bad cop”. Even the dumbest criminal knows more than our pundits and prognosticators. Sheeez.


10 posted on 04/03/2007 9:44:49 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: nypokerface

And as Britain “negotiates”, Argentina has announced they want the Falkland Islands back, and are considering using force again. Apparently they think England will not fight for the Falklands again.


11 posted on 04/03/2007 9:45:14 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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Considering the source I would have to take it with a grain of salt. If, and that is a big if, this becomes a shooting war it cannot be limited in scope. If the Brits and the US aren't willing to go totally to the mat with the Iranians they better not do it at all. If they fall short and declare victory with the current or even more radical leadership in power we will have hell to pay for years. The only way to stop this is with a total and overwhelming victory anything less will bring war to our cities.
12 posted on 04/03/2007 9:45:31 AM PDT by engrpat
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>>debate between pragmatists and radicals prompted supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who leads the first camp<<

This is, perhaps, the discouraging phrase of the week.


13 posted on 04/03/2007 9:46:56 AM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: wastedyears

While you may not, I’m sure others would if they attempted to intervene.


14 posted on 04/03/2007 9:48:01 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: nypokerface
In the ongoing debate, the president and his radical followers seek to use the British captives to goad the British, followed by the Americans, into a limited military confrontation in the Persian Gulf.

This seems quite plausible. The Iranians, of all people, have to have the analogous situation in mind of the kidnapping by Hezbollah in Israel before the Lebanon war last year.

15 posted on 04/03/2007 9:50:06 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: nypokerface

There will be no shooting war over this incident, nor should there be, not withstanding the fact that the Brits appear to have handled this situation badly. Only if the Iranians attempt to block free shipping lanes in the Gulf should an appropriate response follow. The mullahs of Iran may be radical on the surface but they are not stupid. They know the US could wipe out their coastal defenses in short order if so inclined.


16 posted on 04/03/2007 9:57:21 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: nypokerface
I think the British really do not want to see this to escalate into a war and will allow their troops to say what ever it takes to bring them home and make promises as required to assist Iran in getting there people back.

Getting Iran’s people back by kidnapping coalition forces and citizens was foretold/warned 2-weeks ago.

17 posted on 04/03/2007 10:00:30 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: engrpat
The only way to stop this is with a total and overwhelming victory anything less will bring war to our cities.

When are we going to re-learn that war has to be fought without quarter, without mercy and without respite or relent from day one until the enemy is bowed, humbled, stripped, and utterly without further means to resist the will of the victors.

18 posted on 04/03/2007 10:01:24 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Shhhh! It’s a secret.


19 posted on 04/03/2007 10:46:32 AM PDT by mutantcoil
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To: John Valentine
When are we going to re-learn that war has to be fought without quarter,

I fear that will not happen until a major city is seen through a wall of smoke with massive death and more numbers burned and injured horribly. Then the lesson will be learned.

20 posted on 04/03/2007 11:19:12 AM PDT by engrpat
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