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Republicans filing briefs to back Jefferson in court
www.journalnow.com ^ | 04/01/07 | AP

Posted on 04/03/2007 4:40:28 AM PDT by Ellesu

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To: Ellesu

OK, all the Newt for President guys stand up and wave now!! Now we don’t have to wonder why we don’t like or trust him anymore, do we. He never knows when to shut up. Never. He is that smart ass kid in the front row in grade school with his hand always up and waving. He’s the one who always has one more question. It is always about him and about his being right - and righter than everyone else. He is an unprincipled, smirking, limelight seeking %$*&%#^@*.


21 posted on 04/03/2007 5:04:39 AM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: Ellesu

In my opinion taking lobby money is bribe money. How many congress persons are guilty of that?


22 posted on 04/03/2007 5:05:32 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: BnBlFlag
Ditto!

Hannity of course will have Newt on sometime his week to put his spin on this one.

I agree with previous posters that these “friendly Republicans” are trying to protect something stored in their own freezers.

23 posted on 04/03/2007 5:06:11 AM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: Peach

I don’t agree with you. All the FBI had to do was get the Capitol police to do the search; they could have accompanied them. I think it was a grave error in judgment. Whether it’s constitutional or not will be decided in the Court of Appeals or, ultimately, the SCOTUS.


24 posted on 04/03/2007 5:10:34 AM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: Ellesu

Do you want the precedent on the books that the executive branch can raid Capitol offices — when Hillary becomes president?

The clash between the legislature and the executive is independent of that between parties, and at least to some conservatives, the principle of separation of powers is more important than any one member, even if he appears to be as guilty as handmade sin.

As far as Jefferson goes, I don’t know why he hasn’t been dragged in front of a judge, but that’s up to the Justice Department, not either party in Congress. Congress could kick him out, but I can’t think of a case of Congress expelling a member who hadn’t either been convicted of a crime or seceded from the Union.


25 posted on 04/03/2007 5:12:34 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Peach

well, newt just lost my support....Thompson/Delay in ‘08


26 posted on 04/03/2007 5:12:49 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Nothin' from Nothin' leaves Nothin')
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To: Ellesu
"These former leaders of the House had concerns about the integrity and independence of the institution..."

It's all about integrity, and they're fighting for the right for corrupt politicians to hide documents in their offices....

27 posted on 04/03/2007 5:13:11 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: blam
He’s Black. How could he have possibly done anything wrong.

Even if he did something wrong, it's because of racist attitudes and therefore he should not be held accountable.

28 posted on 04/03/2007 5:13:26 AM PDT by Comus (There is no honor in dying with your sword sheathed)
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To: Peach

Newt is not defending Jefferson, he is defending Congress.

To sharpen that a little, he is making the courts judge the issue of Executive enforcement of the law with evidence obtained by means that are beyond constitutional bounds.

Keep in mind Newt is a historian. In the overall scheme of things, the history of the Republic, he has determined this is an issue that deserves scrutiny.


29 posted on 04/03/2007 5:18:18 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Abby is my girl....)
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To: Ellesu
Jefferson has not been charged with a crime.

Of course not. He's a Democrat.
30 posted on 04/03/2007 5:37:13 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Ellesu

Randy Cunningham was stupid. He could have changed over to Democrat and he would still be in Congress taking bribes today.


31 posted on 04/03/2007 5:39:50 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Ellesu
Well, so much for Gingrich’s qualifications to be a Conservative Republican candidate for President.

Scratch another one.

32 posted on 04/03/2007 5:50:04 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (EU sez:"Don't confuse terrorism with Islam." ;-)and never blame a skunk for it's stink,right?.)
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To: engrpat

Why not, the whole cotton pickin bunch of em are crooks.


33 posted on 04/03/2007 5:57:41 AM PDT by biff
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To: Ellesu
Actually, from a strict conservative Constitutionalist standpoint, Newt may well have it right. There’s a real issue with separation of powers here.
34 posted on 04/03/2007 5:57:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: CDHart
I believe you nailed it, CD.

That old adage “Politicians make deranged bed fellows” is proving it’s self to be factual.

35 posted on 04/03/2007 5:58:56 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (EU sez:"Don't confuse terrorism with Islam." ;-)and never blame a skunk for it's stink,right?.)
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To: engrpat

That is the boiled-down argument of Jefferson and his Republican lackeys.


36 posted on 04/03/2007 6:00:57 AM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: Ellesu
You left of former Speaker Tom Foley!!! What a bunch of phonies these guys are, what's good for good old Joe Blow, i.e. FBI finds "probable cause" to search your home or office - it gets searched!!! Congresscritters need not comply as the "people elected them to this exalted office, creating an exemption to the old "probable cause."

Pubbies want to know why we no longer support them, look no further than this outrageous act!

37 posted on 04/03/2007 6:03:53 AM PDT by zerosix
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To: zerosix
"Pubbies want to know why we no longer support them, look no further than this outrageous act!"

You got it. They're afraid the same thing might happen to them. IOW, what are they hiding?

Carolyn

38 posted on 04/03/2007 6:07:00 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: FreedomPoster; Grut
From Grut: The government’s case is essentially that, given a warrant signed by a lower court judge (who may have just had a decision overturned), any Supreme Court Justice’s chambers may be searched by the FBI without further ado. This may prove to be a surprisingly hard sell at the USSC.

From FreedomPoster: Actually, from a strict conservative Constitutionalist standpoint, Newt may well have it right. There’s a real issue with separation of powers here.

If 2 of the branches agree that the 3rd branch can be searched, then it's still unconstitutional? That doesn't make sense, unless the legislative branch was not meant to have any check or balances against it at all. (Not that they accept that, anyway)

Separation of powers, with the inter-branch checks and balances set in place by the constitution, does not mean that congress gets a free pass.

But, then, CONgress does often appear to be the opposite of PROgress, doesn't it?

39 posted on 04/03/2007 6:07:33 AM PDT by MortMan (Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.)
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To: Ellesu

OK, all rhetoric aside, what is the course of action that should have been taken? If the FBI can’t investigate/enforce/search a congressman’s office, who investigates the congressmen?

Seriously? Who is the designated LEO who investigates congressmen?


40 posted on 04/03/2007 6:16:09 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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