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To: Alamo-Girl; Calpernia; TheOtherOne; ken21; KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; ...
Alamo-Girl

A great service that freerepublic could provide would be to establish the number of americans killed by illegals over the last four years. If it could be shown, conclusively that more americans have been killed by illegals than have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan--I think that the current immigration debate can be greatly affected.

Currently, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence as to the number of Americans killed. However, the US government is trying mightily to keep that info out of the public domain.

I talked to chief statistician for the bureau of prisons. He says they 're not allowed to keep numbers on illegal alien murders. The best they can come up with is "non residents." this includes both legal aliens and illegal aliens. ICE keeps detailed numbers for illegal alien child molesters. but nothing on illegal alien murderers.
Part of the reason for this is that most of the americans killed by illegals are american blacks. A number of radio stations out west have talked about hispanics killing american blacks. (However, the number of illegals doing the killing is unknown.) The Las Vegas station is KDWN 720 on Am dial or kdwn.com on computer.They're a Fox news station. San Francisco is 810 on the AM dial, or kgo.com on the computer. Colorado is KOA , 850 on Am radio or 850koa.com on computer.

So how would you get more detailed info?

The job could be done several ways. A federal supena could be issued to get the info. (But who has that kind of power.) A freedem of information act petition could be filed. (But a lot of state & local government records are inadequate.) Finally you could do a search of published reports nationwide of americans killed by illegals. One by doing a nexus lexus search. Another by doing a google groups search for back stories in groups and also putting a filter on the search engines for americans killed by illegals. The chief statistician for US prisons suggested that the best thing to do it is go to the library for two Directories put out by the American Correctional Association. One is the ACA Directory of Prisons. The other is National Jail & Adult Detention Directory. These give lots of info including the name staff & warden addresses & phone numbers of all the USA local state & federal prisons. Then call & ask someone at the prisons how many people in their jail are illegals wanted for murder. Probably it would be best to start with the state prisons because the most violent offenders are there. The downside here is that while you would have the truth--its likely that many prison officials would not cooperate and if they did --they would not offer anything further than a phone call. ie don't quote me on that.

So in the end I think you'd have to have a mix of verifiable methodologies. Then the info could be posted to a forum here at freerepublic or a blog. From there it might be moved up the info food chain.
37 posted on 04/02/2007 8:44:36 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
I would say that "non-resident" killers is JUST AS GOOD for propaganda purposes (our purposes) as "illegals". At most it shows that even when they screen people they are doing a bad job and letting killers in.

That's what happens when your immigration system is broken.

We could start a database of people killed by illegals pretty easily, I imagine.

38 posted on 04/02/2007 8:56:57 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: ckilmer

Good idea that you have.


40 posted on 04/02/2007 3:44:25 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ("Be the best you can be" says Rush Limbaugh. "Serve your fellow men" is God's plan)
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