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To: ventanax5; ElkGroveDan; Dog Gone; blam; a_Turk; TigerLikesRooster
Notice this part of Crichton's speech:
"But Sagan and his co-workers were prepared, for nuclear winter was from the outset the subject of a well-orchestrated media campaign. The first announcement of nuclear winter appeared in an article by Sagan in the Sunday supplement, Parade. The very next day, a highly-publicized, high-profile conference on the long-term consequences of nuclear war was held in Washington, chaired by Carl Sagan and Paul Ehrlich, the most famous and media-savvy scientists of their generation. Sagan appeared on the Johnny Carson show 40 times. Ehrlich was on 25 times. Following the conference, there were press conferences, meetings with congressmen, and so on. The formal papers in Science came months later.

This is not the way science is done, it is the way products are sold."

I used Sagan's nuclear winter article in the October 1983 Parade to destroy his scientific career. There was a whopping big lie in it which was career suicide. I spotted it immediately, investigated, and handed the results to America's foremost atmospheric scientist, who passed the word around in an effective fashion.

Sagan had intentionally misrepresented the opinions of his nuclear winter co-authors on a key point in his Parade article. They called him on it in a footnote in the December 1983 nuclear winter article in Science. I was alert to the issue, grasped the significance of the footnote, and found the source in a Livermore Lab study.

Then I bundled everything off to the atmospheric scientist and he used it to good effect. No one would work with Sagan, his grant applications were denied, etc., and he had to leave the science profession to take up a second career as a science-fiction writer.

More importantly, the scandal about Sagan mis-representing the views of his nuclear winter colleagues was so messy that the lefties gave up promoting the nuclear winter concept lest what Sagan did become a matter of public notice. This is why the apparently "hot" nuclear winter topic up and died in just a few months, and most especially its use as doomie propaganda died. Which was what I wanted.

And the scientist I worked with has continued bashing junk science in general, and now global warming in particular.

26 posted on 03/31/2007 10:26:19 PM PDT by Thud
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To: atomic conspiracy

Take a look at my No. 26 for an example of Piltdown Man scale scientific fraud meeting a just, albeit secret, result.


27 posted on 03/31/2007 10:31:53 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; Alex Murphy; andysandmikesmom; Angelas; ...

UFO PING LIST: LOOKS LIKE THIS IS WORTH READING AFTER ALL.

Please let me know if you want on or off the list.

Thanks.

I always felt Sagan was a government stooge, shill, dupe, idiot.

I think it's still a hoot that after all his years as a government debunker, hostile to ET's, he writes a novel about ET's. Duplicitous to the max to the end, evidently.

Guess he knows now.

The universe is a whisp of a priority.

God always has been; is and always will be. And where there's God, "all there is" is subject to change by the unchanging God.


34 posted on 04/01/2007 7:20:05 AM PDT by Quix (AN AUTHENTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST AND SPIRITUAL WARFARE PREVENTS ET ABDUCTIONS, STOPS SAME)
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To: Thud

Thanks! You did a public service.


49 posted on 04/01/2007 10:56:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, March 31, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Thud

Fascinating. Perhaps you could elaborate a little bit? I had not heard this stuff before. Sagan often did strike me as someone with an axe to grind.


52 posted on 04/01/2007 9:02:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Thud
I feel awed to be in such august company here on this forum.

Sincere, no sarcasm intended, except for this: I'm so glad Al Gore inventd the internet so we could meet this way:)

60 posted on 04/02/2007 6:17:00 PM PDT by happygrl
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