[Hildy]

How does Clinton hold sway over so many people, even when he is out of power? Their behaviors are simply inexplicable.

What is so hard to understand? Socialists believe the party is everything. Collectivism. The ends justify the means. They understand that it's easier to stick together than fall apart. Republicans believe in the individual. That's why is Repubicans cave in sooner than Rats. That's my opinion.

[Texas Songwriter]

I do agree that the Clintonistas are socialists. But it is a socialist-hybrid. They are not so deeply inculcated in this belief that they would sacrifice themselves and their careers, I do not believe. It is all about self to these guys. Burger would not have been faulted if the millineum bomber had been successful...Clinton would have. To be sure Burger would have received some temporary cricicism, but it would have been Clintons' baby.

The Republicans, in a vain attempt to be civilized, believe falsely that if they are nice to democrats, the democrats will be nice to them. This is a fatal flaw in their understanding of the democrat. The democrat takes no prisoners..witness Libby, Gonzales and this current dust-up, and all of the other tangential critizisms leveled at Bush..abu Grabe...even military hospital failures, long known to be substandard, have been labeled as Bush problems.

I believe Clinton loves Clinton more than he loves social programs. Same for Burger. But they might do many stupid things, thinking themselves invincible, because they got away with it for 8 years.