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To: msnimje

Careful there, you haven't read about the Mountain Meadows Massacre. You also are not aware of the Separatist movement that the Mormon Church was at one point, or the burning down of houses and murders committed by Church members historically.

At the Mountain Meadows Massacre, 150 men women and children were slaughtered (every one except for children under 8 years of age, which is considered the age of innocence for kids) by followers of the Mormon church. These were Mormon men who were ordered by their leader to shoot these men women and children point blank in the head after they had surrendered (and the Mormon militia had offered them safe passage). Never forget the massacre!

Did you know that at one time, they sent their own militias to ambush US troops under the leadership of Brigham Young?

That religion also produced the Dannites under the command of Joseph Smith and other "prophets". Beheadings and Blood Atonement was practiced by the religion.

The religion still has doctrinal points regarding Blood Atonement, Plural Marriage, Spiritual Sealings, Speaking in Tongues. Up until 1990 the Church still required temple-going members to perform a symbol of a cut across their throat and abdomen symbolizing there fate for betraying the secrecy of the temple and the solmenization of their temple-work.

Most people underestimate the cult-mind produced by the Mormon church, but when you have people who adhere to such a religion blindly and without critical thought, you start to see people who will do anything for their leaders without question. It is truly a scary proposition when you think about it.

Obviously, the vast majority of Mormons are good people, but even during the early years of the church, there were good people.

That's why any US citizen could possibly be upset with the Mormon religion.


121 posted on 03/31/2007 8:18:47 PM PDT by jatopilot99 (Mitt Romney is pro-abortion, pro-gay, and pro-euthanasia!)
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To: jatopilot99
... Mormon men who were ordered by their leader to shoot these men women and children point blank in the head after they had surrendered (and the Mormon militia had offered them safe passage). Never forget the massacre!

Did you know that at one time, they sent their own militias to ambush US troops under the leadership of Brigham Young?

That religion also produced the Dannites under the command of Joseph Smith and other "prophets". Beheadings and Blood Atonement was practiced by the religion.

Sorry. but you have gone off the deep end now. There was trial regarding Mountain Meadows and justice was done and none of the allegation you now make were proven in a court of law in terms of the Church leadership ordering it or being involved in it in the slightest.

Ther was a trial and the individual responsible was found guilty and executed.

What happened there is that a wagon train full of some of the individuals who had persecuted the relatives of these people and driven them out of Missouri was passing through, bnreathing our threatenings and slander as they passed. Hotheds who were members (and there are bad LDS people like there are bad Baptists, Catholics, Methodists, or any other brand of people), took it upon themselves to hatch this scheme against them and take revenge. They did the horrible deed...but, as I say, were later brought to trial.

As to the other...beheadings and blood sacrifice, there is not one shred of evidence, not one, that the church ever condoned or participated in any such thing. To the contrary, it was those who persecuted their fellow Americans back in that time who murdered scores of innocents Mormons including little children, took their land, and drove them out into the Rocky MOanutains in the 1830s and 1940s.

Anyhow, what you are doing now is simply offensive and not true. To this point we had a reasoned and rational discussion, but your introduction of these falsehoods and rumors and inuendo makes that impossible.

The Lord said, "By hteir fruit ye shall know them."

The fruit of the Church as evidenced by the life and livlihood of the vast majority of its members, and their commitment to family, to morality, and to Christian principle in treating their neighbor as themselves, and loving others, as has been testified to by others not of that faith on this thread. That speaks for itself.

I have given my witness and am content now to let it stand on its own merit.

128 posted on 03/31/2007 9:26:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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