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The Most Hated Family in America (the guys who protest at soldier funerals).
BBC ^ | Saturday, March 30, 2007 | Louis Theroux

Posted on 03/31/2007 3:47:43 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu

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1 posted on 03/31/2007 3:47:46 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu
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Considering Matt Frei (who writes the Washington Diary) considers those who are Creationists to be complete morons (solely because of their position on the origins of life and the universe--because they are Creationists, they must be stupid in almost every area), Thoreaux' piece is rather level-headed.

This family, apart from protesting at soldiers' funerals, doesn't seem that extreme. Christianity does hold the view that homosexuality is bad. Christians can be friends with homosexuals, and can definitely work with them, and even more definitely let them come to church (so that they might change), without becoming members.

2 posted on 03/31/2007 3:52:17 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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P.S. From the article, it is highly suggestive that Theroux isn't a Christian.

P.P.S. Disowning family members who disagree with them is also bad, and doesn't fit in Biblically.


And for the earlier post, it's Theroux' rather than Thoreax'.
3 posted on 03/31/2007 3:56:30 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
This family, apart from protesting at soldiers' funerals, doesn't seem that extreme.

They are extreme, and they are a scourge. It's wrong to give them this platform to make them seem "normal". I've seen them in action--they are sick!

4 posted on 03/31/2007 4:02:48 AM PDT by arbee4bush (Our Airman Daughter KB4W--Hero, Patriot and the Love of her mom & dads life!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Christians should still be clear that they oppose homosexuality.

And Theroux' piece is rather level-headed compared to other BBC analysts.

5 posted on 03/31/2007 4:03:35 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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What do they do that is so disgusting (besides being rather tasteless for protesting at a soldier's funeral)?

This is an actual question--you've actually seen them; personally haven't. You have more information on them.

6 posted on 03/31/2007 4:05:44 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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They are proof that mental illness can be inherited.


7 posted on 03/31/2007 4:06:09 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"This family, apart from protesting at soldiers' funerals, doesn't seem that extreme" - JPM

Yeah....and the Manson family, apart from their murder sprees, seemed like just a bunch of regular ole hippies.

Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley are quite demented, to put it mildly.

8 posted on 03/31/2007 4:15:37 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

And using slurs to refer to homosexuals is also uncalled for. Christians shouldn't demean people even if they disagree with them and are obligated to tell them that what they're doing is bad.


9 posted on 03/31/2007 4:23:54 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"What do they do that is so disgusting (besides being rather tasteless for protesting at a soldier's funeral)?"

Their "protests" at soldiers' funerals aren't simply "tasteless," they're abhorrent.

10 posted on 03/31/2007 4:31:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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It is "abhorrent," but that isn't the same as murdering people (a reference to your Manson analogy).

So is there anything very bad that they do (that makes the news) other than protest at soldiers' funerals and call homosexuals bad names? Although those are "abhorrent" or "tasteless," it isn't as though they are killing people, or even that they want people killed.

11 posted on 03/31/2007 4:35:39 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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"So is there anything very bad that they do (that makes the news) other than protest at soldiers' funerals"

Amazing that you're still not getting the point: Their "protests" at soldiers' funerals is quite bad enough. They don't need anything extra on their resume to make them really bad.

12 posted on 03/31/2007 4:40:53 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Not to detract from the substance of the article, but aren't the Bushes the most hated family in America?


13 posted on 03/31/2007 4:45:40 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
This will give you a better understanding of Phelps and his ilk.

Fred Phelps expose'
14 posted on 03/31/2007 4:51:34 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

They still have about 30 to 40 percent approval (at least George W. Bush does). Guessing that the Phelpses is even lower.


15 posted on 03/31/2007 4:57:47 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Mr. Mojo
And you're not getting the point.

The original post with which you took offense was one stating that "The family....doesn't seem that extreme."

While in bad form, it doesn't make it all the way (at least, personally) to extreme. What they are doing is obviously legal, even if it is reprehensible (the same with neo-Nazis and Aryan Nations people marching and demonstrating). Furthermore, neither you, the article, nor other freepers so far have even suggested that the Phelpses support the murder of either the troops, homosexuals, or other groups. The same couldn't be stated about neo-Nazis and the Aryan Nations. Thus, unless you give more points other than their protests at funerals--such as they are calling for troops or homosexuals' deaths or violence toward those groups--they don't seem that extreme.


Additionally, there are a fair amount of Christians who consider the attacks on September 11 to be punishment for the decline in Christian religiosity in the United States. Such a statement isn't entirely unfounded.

The Phelpses target only homosexuality (bad, but there are other bad things about modern American society besides only homosexuality), and see the punishment as struggles in Iraq and Afghanistan and the deaths of American soldiers rather than only September 11, but you can see that the two ideas are related.

16 posted on 03/31/2007 5:11:12 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
I wonder if they are part of the Dobson tribe?
17 posted on 03/31/2007 5:16:40 AM PDT by Lacey13
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

First these whores and pimps are NOT Christians.


18 posted on 03/31/2007 5:16:48 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Lacey13
Lou Dobson?

What does he believe on the subject?

19 posted on 03/31/2007 5:18:34 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"Additionally, there are a fair amount of Christians who consider the attacks on September 11 to be punishment for the decline in Christian religiosity in the United States."

If what you wrote is true they are NOT Christians but members of the devils clan and total idiots.


20 posted on 03/31/2007 5:19:33 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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