[spunkets]

"Nope... try again. Currently science first mover fallback goes under current theory to the big bang.. Assuming this is true, you are still left with what caused the big bang?

I just told you. To which you replied no. Do you understand what a phase transition is? THe appearance of the universe is the same as the appearance of a bubble in a pot of boiling water. What caused the bubble to appear?

[HamiltonJay]

Heat upon the water... you always have a previous mover... sorry, try again. That bubble did not appear without outside influence... keep trying.