Posted on 03/30/2007 5:59:49 AM PDT by devane617
You won't regret it.
What a shock
Where can I find these> I have not seen these at the grocery or at PetSmart.
“My dry food is Kit and Kaboodle and Whiskas. Please let me know if anyone is having problems with this food.”
Sorry for the delay. I needed to go to the supermarket.
The Whiskas I use is the one that comes in moist little packets. It’s made in Brazil. The Whiskas in cans and dried bags are not favorites with my cats. Therefore, I don’t buy them. They are also made in Brazil.
We used to get 9-lives, Fancy Feast, and other great brands of canned cat food from the States, but I haven’t seen them around for many months. Anytime there is a mad cow outbreak in the U.S., Panama suspends all beef products from the U.S. for a year to include pet foods.
I suspect, and I say this without really knowing, that the distributors of the other pet foods may have been driven out of business here with the last mad cow outbreak in the States.
9-Lives dried food can be purchased here. It comes from the States.
I haven’t seen Kit and Kaboodle for a long time.
In dry food, my cats prefer Hill’s Science Diet. It is made in Argentina.
In summation, I have had to wing it in pet food off and on for a long while.
I have looked through Google for cat food recipes, but my cats don’t like them (those that I have tried).
To finally answer your question, my cats have had no problems yet…..
My best regards.
"How interesting......... It occurred to me that since some of the most extreme animal rights folks don't believe we should have pets (like those who wanted Knut the polar bear cub dead), that that is how the food could have been poisoned."
My thoughts too.
" Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy occurs in one out of every 500 humans and is the most common heart disease in domestic cats. "
We also lost a previously healthy young cat to sudden death.
He had just had a complete physical-nothing abnormal was noticed.
Our vet said that she is seeing an increase in sudden death from hypertrophic cardiomyopathy ( thickening of the heart wall ).
She sees it most often in young males ,both neutered and intact.
Some cats will show symptoms of heart failure and clot problems in their limbs, others show no symptoms-like you all have described, healthy and playful without any obvious signs of disease.
But, their hearts are not healthy and haven't been for awhile.
Maine Coon cats have a genetic component.
Our veterinary Freepers can probably give more info on the causes of sudden death from asymptomatic HCM.
In many cases,they throw a clot or go into an arrythmia while they are asleep.
Our cat looked very peaceful when we found him , which was a consolation.
After reading through these threads, I am going to take my cats off Science Diet dried food. One can’t be too careful even if it comes from Argentina. I am going to switch them to 9-Lives for their dried food.
This is really scary, and I don't scare easily.
Just bought a new bag of Iams dry food and the kitty seems to be fine: good appetite, running around, and clawing the carpet.
Breeder’s Choice (verified by company 3/27/07)
Brands include Active Care, Advanced Pet Diets Select Choice, AvoDerm Select Cuts, Health Food for Dogs, Pinnacle
Canned manufactured by Menu Foods, and American Nutrition
The only products manufactured for them by Menu Foods are AvoDerm 3oz. can and Pinnacle canned dog & cat food
The only product they use wheat gluten in is Active Care cat treats (healthy joint treats)
My dogs eat the AvoDerm dry food (not the canned). No problems. My cat eats Nature's Variety, which isn't involved in the recall and has nothing made by Menu Foods. No health problems there either, other than occasional regurgitation (not vomiting) which is normal for Siamese because they tend to bolt their food. My other 2 cats which died recently at ages 15 and 16 ate all sorts of dry cat foods and had no problems. They both died of cancer.
Hill's Science Diet Dry food is on the OK list in the link provided earlier in the comments. It seems that only Hill's Science Diet wet food has a problem. My dog has been eating Hill's Science Diet for Sensitive Skin with no problem.
I'm sorry about your kitty.
You cat was outside. If it wwas ere ingestion-related, it could have been anything. Cats will eat alot of stuff out in the wild. They could even eat mice that were poisoned from someone else's home.
Too many variables to automatically blame the food.
As for "cats aren't supposed to eat dog food" - actually, it's the other way around. I don't recall why (maybe the ash?), but dogs are supposed to steer clear of cat food - although I'm POSITIVE it would take ALOT to do anything (as if none of us has ever had dogs eat the cat's food and vice-versa). Dog food might not be the premium thing for cats, but I don't recall it ever being "bad" for them.
The thread you posted said that there was no problem with the Science Diet dry foods. However, I noticed that Fromm's is on the good list. That food is made less than 1/2 mile from me. I think I'll switch with the next bag. I knowmy dog loves it because he eats it at my friend's house when he's over there.
They also claim to be making it in a "human food factory", according to something I read on this thread. I don't know about that -- as far as I know, it is a dog and mink food factory. It's located at the top of "Mule Hill" -- now a popular sledding hill.
It's called "Mule Hill" because they used to have aged mules and horses delivered there, slaughter them, and turn them into mink and fox food during the years that farms and people were turning from equine transportation to motorized transport and farm equipment. The mules and horses spent their last days grazing on the hillside. The operation was also the site of a famous fox farm when the Fromm family was engaged in the fur business.
Internet and blog sources are rife with rumors about this and that . . . and people are jumping to conclusions all over the place.
Please remember that switching your dog or cat's food suddenly to a new product can itself disagree with them -- move them gradually!
“Hill's Science Diet Dry food is on the OK list in the link provided earlier in the comments. It seems that only Hill's Science Diet wet food has a problem. My dog has been eating Hill's Science Diet for Sensitive Skin with no problem.”
Thank you for that information. I feel better in that area. Back to plan “A.” Full speed ahead with Hill’s dried food.
What frightens me, and certainly a lot of you too, is that my pets depend on me for their well-being and comfort. They don’t expect to be killed by me.
Hi,
You wrote:
>My cat eats Nature's Variety, which isn't involved in the
>recall and has nothing made by Menu Foods.
It turns out this isn't true: Nature's Variety does outsource their canned food to Menu Foods, it just that wheat gluten isn't used in their product.
For what it's worth, I feed dogs Nature's Variety kibble and canned food.
I wished the message from the CEO of Nature's Variety (on their website) at least acknowledged that they outsourced some food to Menu Foods.
I should go back to feeding my dogs a raw diet (i.e. BARF).
"Please remember that switching your dog or cat's food suddenly to a new product can itself disagree with them -- move them gradually!"
This is very true. But they don’t go into a lethargic mode as some are describing. But maybe it is just my pets…Just an observation.
There is nothing messier than abruptly changing foods on one’s pet(s).
Thank you for the reminder.
>Where can I find these<
If you click on the various links, you should be able to find a "locate a dealer" link. I've had luck with a local feed store, who was willing to order a bag or 2 of Eagle Pack for me. In fact, they've picked up a couple of new customers for my brand (which suits me, as they stock it now as a matter of course).
>They also claim to be making it in a "human food factory", according to something I read on this thread. I don't know about that -- as far as I know, it is a dog and mink food factory. It's located at the top of "Mule Hill" -- now a popular sledding hill.<
The list is only as good as the ingredients in the food, and the truthfullness of each dog food company. The website to which I linked contacted each company, and asked questions.
I had never heard of Fromm's until I pulled that link. They sound a tad sleazy, from your account. Mule hill, indeed :^(
My vet is less than enthused about it, because most people don't practice proper sanitation even with their own food, let alone the pets'. Cooking kills most of the nastier germs, which is why we don't get sick from the poor sanitation practices.
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