One of 10 draftees still in Army retires

Charleston Daily Mail ^ | today | staff

[aft_lizard]

Well I wasnt privy to every word but when I heard the General say "they are needed to put a tent up for me" the SMA just flipped, "are you f'ng kidding me sir, these mean have been doing flips the last 20 hours and have 20 more to go......"

[VoiceOfBruck]

Check out:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/pay/bl05warrantsalary.htm

They don't do too bad.

[Larry Lucido]

Well, the Warrant Officers I know think they are God, so I guess he would be Chief God.

(Just kidding, WO's)

[Bender2]

Large scan of Marine Corps Enlisted Ranks Here

Larger scan of Marine Warrant & Commissioned Officer Ranks Here

[Rodney King]

wow. No idea you could make that much $$$ if you were not an admiral.

[Larry Lucido]

LOL, ya beat me!

[Bender2]

You know, I had just asked my wife about the rank structure of the Australian Defence Forces when I saw your post . . . . .

Thanks... Now, how's bout a beer? You buying?

[VoiceOfBruck]

Actually those charts are a little outdated too.

You don't get much pay in the lower ranks, but you do pretty well when (if) you move up.

[Larry Lucido]

Would like to see that Plymouth..?

I bet it started right up, too!

[Centurion2000]

I just have one more question, and I'm sorry if it sounds stupid, but....does commissioned mean college?

Well for commisioned officers ... 4 year degree requirement for all branches.

Warrant officers need 60 hours credit or something like that as of the 90's (last time I looked into it).

Higher level enlisteds in leadership positions are called Non-commisioned officers.

The commision is like a contract from the government granting the rank and detailing broad duties. Warrants are similar but more for technical skills.

Helicopter pilots are generally warrant officers in the army. Almost all helo pilots in the Marines are commissioned officers however.

[Centurion2000]

Believe it or not wikipedia has some good articles explaining the differences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_Officer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioned_officer

Warrants apparently derive from English Naval Rank.

[YellowRoseofTx]

I'm sorry, instead of "title" I meant ranks but couldn't think of it when I posted.

[YellowRoseofTx]

Believe it or not wikipedia has some good articles explaining the differences.

Thanks, I'll check them out. I appreciate the explanation. My dad was in the army in WW11, but would never talk about it with us girls.

[Bender2]

As far as I know Non-commissioned Officers do not have commissions. Warrant Officer have a warrant of their rank. Commissioned Officers have commissions signed by the President...

It is about to rain here, big booming thunder some 56 miles south of Big D...

Yep, that cow is about to do it to that flat rock!

Ciao...

[silentreignofheroes]

You obviously didn't serve back then,

Kiss my lily white butt,RA '71-'79..Dip Stick...!

[Past Your Eyes]

That's the first thing I noticed.

[Past Your Eyes]

When I was in the Marine Corps, Warrant Officers were generally addressed as either "Gunner" or "Mister". They were definitely called "sir".

When I was in the Army, I don't recall ever hearing anyone call a Warrant Officer "sir".

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I don't know if it's changed but it used to be in the Army people could get a commission without a four year degree. Some colleges had two year commissioning programs. The downside was for the most part they couldn't move above 0-4 ( Major ) without completing their BS/BA. Now that's almost still the case with a four year degree. To move up above 0-4, most officers have to be at least working on a post grad degree.

[shorty_harris]

Heh...they were still teaching vacuum tube theory at NAS Memphis in 1974 when I went through there..

[Kenny Bunk]

"A Warrant Officer is neither flesh, nor fowl, nor good red meat."

"An officer in a free uniform."
An officer who doesn't need a tailor...
cannot afford a tailor,
badly tailored officer, etc. etc.

"An Army Pilot"

"A soldier allowed into the Officer's Club."

A man who knows too much to be an officer, but not enough to be a Master Sergeant."

"An expert on something that embarrasses the rest of the Army."