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Liberals : why is the GOP still heading for '08 ?
Time Magazine ^ | 03 29 2007 | drzz

Posted on 03/29/2007 9:02:28 AM PDT by drzz

Why, in poll after poll, including the new TIME poll, does that advantage seem to disappear whenever voters are asked to pick a president in hypothetical head-to-head match-ups among front-runners with solid name recognition. In our poll, Hillary Clinton loses to John McCain, 42-48%, and to Rudy Giuliani 41-50%. Even though Clinton maintains a 7% edge over Obama among Democratic respondents, Obama fares better in the general election match-ups. It's so close that it's a statistical dead-heat, but Obama still loses: 43-45% to McCain, 44-45% to Giuliani.

It's hard to know exactly why respondents who are generally unhappy towards — and in many cases fed up with — the GOP might still prefer a Republican for president over a Democrat. Much of it has to do with the individual candidates involved. In Clinton's case, as TIME pollster Mark Schulman points out, "with Hillary the Democratic front-runner, most voters have made up their minds about her, both pro and con. She may have limited upward potential against Republicans. The emerging anti-Hillaries, Obama and Edwards, suffer from low awareness at this point."

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clinton; congress; elections; electionspresident; guliani; hilary; iran; iraq; mccain; romney; rudy
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To: ChiTownBearFan
PEOPLE LOVE RUDY, or as I like to call him, Reagan 2.

People do like Rudy. I like Rudy. I will not vote for Rudy, but I like him.

Rudy is no Reagan. Not even close.

101 posted on 03/29/2007 10:49:18 AM PDT by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: ChiTownBearFan

Bwhahaha Reagan hahahaha 2 hahahaha You have got to be joking


102 posted on 03/29/2007 10:50:21 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: flashbunny; Fierce Allegiance
He was in law school and had three kids to support.

So, he got a deferment. In other words, he didn't go. I don't fault him for that.

MY point has consistently been that we have to stop faulting people, with the exception of those who actually fled the country or otherwise broke the law, for their actions during that time. That includes Giuliani, Thompson, Quayle and maybe even George W. Bush (I don't buy all the criticisms, but he certainly didn't choose active duty).

I graduated high school in '76 and chose not to enlist. The prevailing attitude at that time (at least in my area) was that if you could go to college, you did. Some 30 years later, I'd do it differently.

All I'm saying is be careful about throwing around the term "draft dodger" because it could come back to bite.

And if you think that the Soros/Moveon/Satan wing of the Democrat(ick) party won't throw that at Thompson, you're being incredibly naive.

I'm not criticizing Thompson for not serving. Just pointing out that he'll need to have a solid answer when the question arises.

103 posted on 03/29/2007 10:51:37 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com * http://wardsmythe.com * http://www.rudyblogs.com)
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To: wagglebee

No way. Now your disreguarding everything else besides the war. Do you beleive a Rudy Supreme Court would look the same as FDR's supreme court? If so that is crazy. Comparing him to Cold War liberal presidents just doesnt compute.


104 posted on 03/29/2007 10:51:58 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ryan71
Let's say Rudy is like having the flu

Rudy is more like having the "clap"

105 posted on 03/29/2007 10:52:20 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: clamper1797

How did you arrive at Thompson/Hunter. My guess, that you supported Hunter until Thompson came in, which you saw to be more electable, than the obviously no chance man Hunter. So electablity does have some merit I see.


106 posted on 03/29/2007 10:53:39 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: drzz
The country already has Clinton fatigue.
And with the advent of the perpetual campaign, soon to get Obama fatique.
107 posted on 03/29/2007 10:54:11 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

I sure hope so. Illinois doesnt, thats for dam sure.


108 posted on 03/29/2007 10:55:24 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ChiTownBearFan

Actually ... you are right. I was (and still am) for Duncan Hunter BUT Fred Thompson is more electable. Hooking Duncan up with Fred gets Duncan in the spotlight for 2012-2016


109 posted on 03/29/2007 10:56:17 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: fr_freak
You want a Republican to win, then put a conservative in the running. Period.

That's one way to put it. Here's another:

You want a Republican to win, then don't sit out the election and allow Hitlery/Hussein to win the White House. Period.

110 posted on 03/29/2007 10:59:41 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: ChiTownBearFan
Do you beleive a Rudy Supreme Court would look the same as FDR's supreme court?

Based on Rudy's liberalism, I have no reason to believe otherwise.

111 posted on 03/29/2007 11:06:08 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: flashbunny

IIRC, having children usually resulted in an exemption from the draft.


112 posted on 03/29/2007 11:11:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Well, the reason you should believe otherwise is he is saying for all to hear that he will appoint conservaitve judegs. Isnt that more important than any personal feeling he might have as the issues?


113 posted on 03/29/2007 11:11:25 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FreeInWV

AGAIN!?

How many final issues will they print!

Just wait in a few months we will have a new FIRST issue collector's item.


114 posted on 03/29/2007 11:14:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ChiTownBearFan

Give me one single reason that we should believe ANY president would KNOWINGLY appoint judges who have philosophies that are the TOTAL OPPOSITE of their own?


115 posted on 03/29/2007 11:15:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: drzz

Typical Time Magazine newsroom liberal culture: faggots, feminists and effete freaks.


116 posted on 03/29/2007 11:16:06 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: wagglebee

"I would want judges who are strict constructionists because I am," he told South Carolina Republicans last month. "Those are the kinds of justices I would appoint -- Scalia, Alito and Roberts."--The man himself


117 posted on 03/29/2007 11:16:53 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ChiTownBearFan
Here's a hypothetical for you to try to figure out:

What if I referred to an anonymous candidate and I did not give you their party affiliation, but gave you the following information:

- The candidate believes in the "right" to abortion, including partial birth abortion.
- The candidate believes in the "right" of homosexuals to have a legal union that resembles marriage.
- The candidate believes in the "right" of illegal aliens to illegally enter and remain in our country.
- The candidate believes government has the "right" to modify the Second Amendment of the Constitution at will to curtail the right to keep and bear arms.

If this was the ONLY information you had, would your conclusion be that this unnamed candidate was a conservative Republican or a liberal Democrat?

118 posted on 03/29/2007 11:17:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

I believe Cheney also received such an exemption.


119 posted on 03/29/2007 11:17:42 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: wagglebee

If he says hes going to appoint justices like Scalia how is any of that relevent? There personal positions. The President doesnt write legislation.


120 posted on 03/29/2007 11:19:23 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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