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Standing against the tide-Jewish organizations are wise to avoid jumping on the anti-war bandwagon.
Jerusalem Post ^ | 3-28-07 | JONATHAN TOBIN

Posted on 03/28/2007 4:14:10 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: Anti-Bubba182
The distinction is that Jews would not be given an opportunity to convert to Islam and live in peace. If Israel was overrun there would be mass slaughter. Jews would be singled out in other countries if Islamists got power.

Islam accepts Jewish converts. But Israel can't be overrun. A nuclear strike, that's the Islamic worlds chance. It's been awhile, but Pakistan was once lauded as the possessor of the Islamic bomb, not a defensive move against India, but an Islamic bomb. Presumably to be used on infidels. Something Iran aspires to, though I suspect they're likely to use it, thus may not get it.

21 posted on 03/28/2007 6:08:48 PM PDT by SJackson (restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many Americans, A. Lincoln)
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To: justiceseeker93

Good point. The danger from the Nazis was more acute because they were killing Jews, en mass, during the war. The Islamists do not have control to do so, but should
they ever get control or Nukes they certainly would kill as many Jews as possible.


22 posted on 03/28/2007 6:11:20 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: SJackson
Perhaps you miss my analogy: As the leftist nitwits are fond of pointing out (for their own perverse purposes), the US has been in the Iraq war for longer than the US was in WWII. So my question about American Jews opposing the war against Nazi Germany would have referred not to the 1930s, but to a period when the US was already at war against the Nazis. Would there have been a conflict between opposing war against Nazi Germany then and being Jewish?
23 posted on 03/28/2007 6:15:11 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: SJackson

"It is simply not consistent," said Cheney, "for anyone to demand aggressive action against the menace posed by the Iranian regime while at the same time acquiescing in granting a Palestinian statehood that would leave our worst enemies dramatically emboldened and Israel dangerously weakened."

Well, that's what he SHOULD be saying...


24 posted on 03/28/2007 6:25:40 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: SJackson
Do you really think that there is Islamic good will toward Jews? A Jewish convert to Islam is a pet, a curiosity and in no way is trusted and truly accepted in Islam.

Israel can't be overrun? In the Yom Kippur War they very nearly were and only President Richard Nixon's authorization of massive resupply kept that from happening.

Jews are leaving France because of Islamist persecution.

Jews opposing efforts to fight them in Iraq and elsewhere are deluding themselves and are ungrateful.

25 posted on 03/28/2007 6:53:27 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
There's no good will, but they will accept converts.

Israel can deal with conventional threats. I give Nixon a great deal of credit for his actions, resupply was important, and I think it was the most courageous pro-Israel action of a US President, because it was unpopular. Depending on whether you believe representations about Soviet intentions, as in troops in the air, a grave risk, though that part in America's interest. Many sources would say the resupply while important, wasn't vital, most supplies, particularly artillery shells were at about 50%, and the Arabs weren't going to last another couple weeks on their own.

France is France's problem. IMO French Jews under persecution should go to Israel, or go through the regular process to immigrate to the US.

Jews who oppose the war aren't ungrateful, they're wrong. Any more than American Jews who support the war are disloyal neocon Zionist traitors.

26 posted on 03/28/2007 7:04:32 PM PDT by SJackson (restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many Americans, A. Lincoln)
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"..Many sources would say the resupply while important, wasn't vital, most supplies, particularly artillery shells were at about 50%, and the Arabs weren't going to last another couple weeks on their own."

Really? With the USSR supplying Egypt & Syria, the US resupply was crucial. Where did you get that? That was really off the wall.

27 posted on 03/28/2007 7:33:11 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: SJackson

Stupid Jews.


28 posted on 03/28/2007 7:43:48 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Really? With the USSR supplying Egypt & Syria, the US resupply was crucial. Where did you get that? That was really off the wall.

First, let me note again Nixon's actions were courageous.

The Soviet issue wasn't supplies, there were reports of Soviet troops in the air, the first wave, which were turned back in the face of Nixon's worldwide defense condition escalation. Haven't a clue if they were in the air, but there were several, reports are 6 or 7, Soviet airborne divisions prepared to intervene. They backed down.

The supply issue, certainly important, one of the major issues Israel confronted in the post-war inquiries, they always do that over there. Fired a few Generals over that war.

Sharon describes the resupply as an important factor mentally, it convinced Israelis, and the world America was committed. He also contends that in terms of most critical supplies, ammunition, Israel was at 60%-75%, the only real shortage being 175mm artillery. Peacetime ammunition dumps were emptied, but largely because of Israel's tactical policy of moving ammunition to forward facilities.

That's not to minimize Nixon's actions, but the most important was facing down the Soviets who were prepared to enter the war.

29 posted on 03/28/2007 7:47:44 PM PDT by SJackson (restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many Americans, A. Lincoln)
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To: onedoug

Dude, that's uncalled for.


30 posted on 03/28/2007 7:48:57 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (".... We are a nation of Americans. We are DECENDED from legal immigrants"- johnandrhonda)
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To: SJackson

Hey, in reference to your tagline, have you ever noticed that most Americans believe in restoration of people's native homelands, as long as their last names are Running Water, Dove Warrior, and Great Elk, and not Rabbinovich, DeSilva or Goldstein? (I thrown in a Spanish Jew last name because there isn't a lot of love given to the Spanish Jews IMHO.)


31 posted on 03/28/2007 7:52:11 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (".... We are a nation of Americans. We are DECENDED from legal immigrants"- johnandrhonda)
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To: TypeZoNegative

And I meant to say "American liberals", not "Americans". Sorry, brainfart :D


32 posted on 03/28/2007 7:54:02 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (".... We are a nation of Americans. We are DECENDED from legal immigrants"- johnandrhonda)
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To: SJackson
"That's not to minimize Nixon's actions, but the most important was facing down the Soviets who were prepared to enter the war."

It was a big deal. Raising a Def-Con level is no small matter, yet I have heard faint praise for Nixon over the years.

33 posted on 03/28/2007 8:09:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: SJackson

"the Union of Reform Judaism"

"the Union of Deformed Judaism"

I fixed that minor typo for you

;-)


34 posted on 03/28/2007 9:18:59 PM PDT by GladesGuru
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To: Godwin1

There are plenty of NON-Jewish congresscritters who want defeat too, including that nice Catholic orca, Ted Kennedy. I don't understand the constant battering of Jews who are liberal--what about the Christian groups who represent themselves at these so-called anti-war (anti American!) protests? Label me a proud conservative who supports the troops and their mission wholeheartedly (that I am Jewish by birth is secondary!)


36 posted on 03/29/2007 8:49:36 AM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: Bob J

There are more Jews voting against Democrats than ever before and as the left turns to islam more every day, there are more Jews turning to the right. It would be nice if non-Jewish conservatives would welcome us, but even if you don't, we'll still turn to the right. So, you can't say that "they" will vote dem, because I am "they" and I will never never vote dem.


37 posted on 03/29/2007 8:54:31 AM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: onedoug

That was really out of line. Taking a break from Stormfront to pay us a visit, are you?


38 posted on 03/29/2007 8:59:39 AM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: Yehuda

Lighten up, do you disagree that as a demographic voting block, the majority of Jews vote dem and that most continued to do so in the '06 midterm?

It's like calling someone a racist because the observe that most blacks vote dem.


39 posted on 03/29/2007 9:40:40 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: SJackson

Yes, when I see these "polls", I think the intent is to bash Jews to middle America and set us up for discrimination or some kind of attack in the future.


40 posted on 03/29/2007 10:49:08 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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