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To: DreamsofPolycarp
You post that kind of tripe and then make accusations of OTHER belief systems of being irrational? I am usually eager to help answer genuine questions. However I don't have times for people who act like the simian cages where the apes sh*t in their hands and fling it at the onlookers and then gibber and howl like they have scored some kind of coup. You have a real argument? Make it. Spare us the snarky imbecilisms.

Okay, I get the picture. Any question you can't answer is my fault. I didn't post that question to you...if anyone is snarking here it's you. You want to claim the moral high ground and belittle those who reject your dogma yet you can't answer the most simple of questions.

Christ tasted death for every man.
If He is God He most certainly did not taste death or sacrifice anything for me. It's only a sacrifice if you lose something.

Show me any evidence at all that hell is a real place or the man named Jesus actually existed. Can you do that?
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253 posted on 03/28/2007 11:36:43 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
Show me any evidence at all that hell is a real place or the man named Jesus actually existed. Can you do that?

Show me evidence that you have ancesters in the middle ages. Can you do that?

254 posted on 03/28/2007 11:40:05 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: mugs99
Show me any evidence at all that hell is a real place or the man named Jesus actually existed. Can you do that?

What would you accept as evidence?

258 posted on 03/28/2007 12:01:41 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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To: mugs99
Christ tasted death for every man. If He is God He most certainly did not taste death or sacrifice anything for me. It's only a sacrifice if you lose something.

Well, maybe in one sense you are right, in that Christ's death was only efficacious for his own, and possibly you are not one of his own. Jesus said clearly "I lay down my life for my sheep...." and then a bit later "you are not my sheep."

However, on the other hand, there is an intrinsic sufficiency in the death of Christ to swallow a world of guilt, a world of hateful rebellion, and a million universes of self righteous pride. I guess it means how you use the phrase "tasted death for every man" and I admit to using it both ways.

It's only a sacrifice if you lose something.

Yeah. That is kind of the point about Christianity.

....belittle those who reject your dogma yet you can't answer the most simple of questions.

I don't belittle those who reject my dogma or your dogma and I am happy to answer genuine questions. I belittle those who mock from ignorance. If I went on a physical science forum and sneered at Einstein and mocked the idea that the universe is curvilinear because I can pull a string in a straight line from two points, I would be laughed out because I was too damn stupid to recognize that I didn't know what I was pontificating about. I don't expect you to be quoting Calvin or papal encyclicals when you ask the questions. But, you should know that you, uh, ain't exactly the first guy to ever ask these questions, and it is not exactly like there aren't any smart people who have ever considered them....., and that their response was not to throw up their hands in despair and say with Gomer Pyle "well goooolllleeee, he sure fixed our little belief system didn't he Corporate Boyle?" So, like I said, if you have a REAL question, I am always eager to answer it.

259 posted on 03/28/2007 12:15:53 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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To: mugs99

Get the book 23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese. It's a fascinating account of hell. I hope you get it, mugs. Hell IS real.


306 posted on 03/28/2007 5:25:45 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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