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Would You Vote for This person? (Rudy's Website Whoppers!)
CBN ^ | 3/27/07 | Dave Brody

Posted on 03/27/2007 6:32:11 AM PDT by pissant

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To: RadioAstronomer

-come off it.....this IS STILL the primaries.........Rudy is hardly conservative or pro-life......I am shopping around for a candidate that will better represent my views.


81 posted on 03/27/2007 7:28:17 AM PDT by tioga
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To: ken21

That's funny, since we are and have been kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no lost war, only in Murtha's and the MSM's imaginations.


82 posted on 03/27/2007 7:29:55 AM PDT by pissant (Gimme a beer, wench.)
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To: TommyDale
If the GOP really wants to win, they will nominate someone who can appeal to voters across the board.

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Unfortunately, this message doesn't seem to be getting through to the pro-Rudy crowd.

83 posted on 03/27/2007 7:30:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: apocalypto
"It is sad that he has become this two-faced."

"HAS BECOME"? Looking at his own personal history, I would say he has always had this problem. He's just never been so scrutinized until now. This is a good example of how past personal character flaws reveal the true candidate.

84 posted on 03/27/2007 7:30:59 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: angkor
So c'mon you values voters, you social conservatives, you evangelical conservatives... fess up to what you are and stop trying to slander other conservatives.

You can call me "evangelical" all you want, it's still a falsehood. I'm not insulted by it even though you clearly intend it to be an insult.

BTW when you ran down your list, you missed the two most important issues in my eyes and they have nothing to do with morality.
85 posted on 03/27/2007 7:32:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: massadvj
I cannot think of a politician I have supported that I agree with 100 percent of the time.

That isn't the point.

You were extremely condescening to Rudy critics with that post. For having the gall to look at Rudy's past actions, when he did not need our votes, as opposed to his current claims, when he does. And that is rank cynical opportunism. Rudy now wants to pretend he can shift to a pro-PBA ban position and have people believe him, when he still says he is pro-choice and he was AGGRESSIVELY pro-abort in the past. And you have the nerve to say we're wrong when we are right in questioning the veracity of Rudy's shift, GIVEN HIS PAST.

86 posted on 03/27/2007 7:33:40 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dirtboy
You can't win by running against someone. You have to win by being FOR something -

The irony on these Rudy hatefest threads runs deep. LOL.

87 posted on 03/27/2007 7:33:56 AM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius
The irony on these Rudy hatefest threads runs deep

Irony? I am for two conservative GOP candidates. I am not the one who is pointing at Hillary as the primary reason to vote for my guy. I am also not the one shilling for a liberal on a conservative website.

88 posted on 03/27/2007 7:35:43 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: cripplecreek

"BTW when you ran down your list, you missed the two most important issues in my eyes and they have nothing to do with morality."

Well don't be coy, I'm not going to play guessing games with you.


89 posted on 03/27/2007 7:37:37 AM PDT by angkor
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To: RadioAstronomer

Sad to say, that's about the same agenda Rudy would follow...


90 posted on 03/27/2007 7:38:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: dirtboy

Oh? You are? :-)

Being -for- somebody who won't ever be elected is easier rhetoric, isn't it? Makes everything so simple.


91 posted on 03/27/2007 7:40:39 AM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: dirtboy
I am also not the one shilling for a liberal on a conservative website.

Ah, it's so fascinating to hear the call of the North American "only true conservative" in his native habitat.

A rare species, descended from the nearly-extinct 'Buchannanite' conservatives, you can spot one by it's distinctive mating call, "If you disagree with me about X, you're a traitorous liberal Democrat!"

92 posted on 03/27/2007 7:41:35 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: RadioAstronomer

What the Hell, damned if we do, damned if we don't, one democrat is about the same as any other!
I'm tired of "but, Hilary is even worse" find another line of B.S.


93 posted on 03/27/2007 7:42:51 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: RadioAstronomer
For all you Rudy haters out there - What if he gets the nomination? Ya voting Democrat then?

No, third party. Principle over party. I don't have to agree with everything a candidate believes in order to vote for him (if that were true, I could only vote for myself), but there is a threshold and Giuliani crosses it.

94 posted on 03/27/2007 7:43:37 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Ramius
Being -for- somebody who won't ever be elected is easier rhetoric, isn't it?

I am for Hunter and Thompson - and Thompson has the best chance of anyone, IMO, including Rudy. Unlike Rudy, Thompson is center-right.

95 posted on 03/27/2007 7:44:19 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Liberal Congress you mean with a Liberal in the whitehouse.

That "anyone but a Democrat" argument is old, it's tired and it no longer holds water.

If I lose my second amendment rights because of a Liberal Republican or a Liberal Democrat

What have I gained?

If a Liberal Republican or a Liberal Democrat both support abortion.

What have I gained?

If a Liberal Republican or a Liberal Democrat both raise taxes.

What have I gained?

If a Libera Republican or a Liberal Democrat both grant amnesty to Illegal Invaders.

What have I gained?

If a Liberal Republican or a Liberal Democrat both ram through a socialist agenda.

What have I gained?

If a Liberal Republican or a Liberal Democrat both support enviro-nazi agendas.

What have I gained?

The issue is not about Democrat Vs Republican anymore. I've heard that tired assed argument for 32 years. It no longer holds any weight with me.

The Republican party can get off of it's high friggin horse and start giving it's base something to support or it will find itself on the losing end of another election in 2008.

I flat will NOT vote for a Man or a Woman simply because they have an "R" by their name.

I definately will not support one that has a 90% Liberal Background.

If you don't like that then I don't know what to tell you.

But here's a suggestion.

The Republicans can start giving conservatives something to get motivated about.

Mr Guiliani, Mr Mcain, Mr Romney ain't gettin the job done.


96 posted on 03/27/2007 7:46:31 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Liz
I kinda, sorta like conservatives. Me and my handlers just don't want 'em anywhere near my campaign."

Actually Liz, there are a great many Conservatives involved in his campaign.
97 posted on 03/27/2007 7:49:23 AM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Dominic Harr
Ah, it's so fascinating to hear the call of the North American "only true conservative" in his native habitat.

Someone who is pro-abort to the point of addressing NARAL, anti-gun to the point of prodding Carolyn McCarthy to join a gun-grabbing presser, pro-CFR, pro-illegal to the point of defying federal court orders to keep NYC's sanctuary-city policy, pro-human-caused global warming, and anti-federalist can reasonably be construed by any definition TO NOT BE A CONSERVATIVE.

Thompson supported CFR. But he's also pro-life, pro-gun and anti-global warming. An actual conservative can overlook the CFR part to get the larger body of conservativism in a candidate. Rudy offers little in the way of conservativism, and even that is tainted by his refusal to follow the rule of law in areas such as sanctuary cities and his stashing of official records that were supposed to belong to the city and the public.

98 posted on 03/27/2007 7:52:24 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: azhenfud; Little Ray
.....I consider a Giuliani nomination more destructive because it sends a signal to moderate conservatives, fence-straddlers, and the rightly-tilted of the Democrat party that protection of gun rights, the sanctity of the unborn life, and respect for the institution of marriage are no longer values worth defending.......

Rudeo's plan is to makeover the Repub Party into a clone of the Dims.

This is not what the Founders intended. The Framers wisely intended that "checks and balances" were central to our system of government.

Every USSC decision on the subject has upheld the two-party system as essential to our governance.

Rudy is a clear and present danger to the republic, as we know it.

Rudeo would decimate two-party system and the all-important checks and balances a vibrant democracy implies.

99 posted on 03/27/2007 7:53:19 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: pissant

it is not funny.

conservatives i know are pissed.

you're living in a bubble.


100 posted on 03/27/2007 7:53:41 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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