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To: elc

I don't like your tone ONE bit.
I gave you examples of how the Catholics were denied rights, and you scoff at that and at the 1916 Uprising.
That shows your lack of knowledge about the History of Ireland.
I think you are softhearted toward the Ian Paisley and his Orange murderers. They, by the way, are the ONLY ones who would vote for a non-Irish Government. The same traitors that helped William and the English persecute the Irish.

Think what you like, "Éireann go Brách" is the way it will be.


86 posted on 03/28/2007 2:25:37 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.......)
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To: TexConfederate1861
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Good Irish Monday, TexConfederate1861 wrote: ...I think you are softhearted toward the Ian Paisley and his Orange murderers. They, by the way, are the ONLY ones who would vote for a non-Irish Government.

Best I can tell by Irish Goverenment, you mean union with Ireland, not a self governing province as part of the UK.

If that is true, you are sadly mistaken. The majority of legal residents in Northern Ireland stilly clearly prefer affliation with the UK over Ireland. Whom would you disenfranchise to make your vision a reality? How many years or generations back should be required to vote on sovereignity?

88 posted on 03/28/2007 6:23:54 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: TexConfederate1861; elc; Irish_Thatcherite
I don't like your tone ONE bit

Then you’re really going to hate mine.

I gave you examples of how the Catholics were denied rights, and you scoff at that and at the 1916 Uprising.

I’ve got news for you sunshine – the Irish have moved on. It’s not the 19th century anymore. You will never see an actual Irish person on these threads whinging on about the Famine or the Easter Uprising or the Penal Laws – but there are plenty of Irish American plastic paddies who do just that at the drop of a hat. Your rantings are so far removed from current realities in Ireland as to be laughable. You spout the usual 'Brits Out!' rubbish, but if that were to happen, the same problems would exist that do now - because the problems are between the Protestants and Catholics, and neither group is going anywhere. The only difference would be that the Republic of Ireland would be dealing with the nutjobs instead. And that's a task it has no desire to take on.

That shows your lack of knowledge about the History of Ireland

You do realize that elc grew up in Ireland, and has no doubt forgotten more Irish history than you will ever know? And, since we're talking about ignorance of history, Catholics got the right to vote in 1793, not at the end of the nineteenth century as you posted. Catholics (and Presbyterians) got the right to sit in Parliament in 1829. Looks like you’re the one who needs to learn some history

I think you are softhearted toward the Ian Paisley and his Orange murderers

Ian Paisley doesn’t have any “Orange murderers.” The DUP doesn’t have and never has had an illegal paramilitary wing at its back– unlike Sinn Fein. I’m sure you won’t believe this, but Ian Paisley is actually quite popular amongst his Catholic constituents, because he works for them and with them. He’s certainly opposed to Catholicism, but he does not hate Catholics. But since you hate him so much, it must really anger you that he is going to be First Minister in a few weeks. Thirty years of terrorism, and what did it get the IRA? Ian Paisley heading up the government, that’s what! Not quite the outcome they or their plastic pat fundraisers and gunrunners in New York and Boston expected, is it?

89 posted on 03/28/2007 7:56:24 PM PDT by slane
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To: TexConfederate1861

Fine. Ignore the questions. I now know your type. You have mentioned that Catholics need a say in their government (using the PRESENT tense) and you have consisently failed to give PRESENT day examples.

Typical SF/IRA troll.


91 posted on 03/29/2007 5:40:01 AM PDT by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
They, by the way, are the ONLY ones who would vote for a non-Irish Government.

43.76% Catholic
53.13% Protestant
CAIN

58% - remain a part of the UK
23% - reunify with Ireland
7% - independent state
2% - other
11% - don't know
NI Life and Times Survey

I can look at those numbers and realize their is significant crossover from the Catholic population.
93 posted on 03/29/2007 6:11:35 AM PDT by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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